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In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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Truth: A sovereign country with a democratically elected govt with historic mandate, especially a developing country like India with history of innumerable islamic terrorist attacks originating from its neighbours, defending its borders from illegal migrants as per ruling party election manifesto.

Woke 'intellectuals': fascism!!

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> NC: One thing that’s happened is the press has been pretty much muzzled. They are very uncritical. This is a big issue with mass media in India that many don’t realize or want to realize. Between — a) most of the mainstream media houses (except a few) not asking tough questions (but supporting the government for everything), b) the Supreme Court ignoring important cases and not hearing them for years and c) the amo…

> the amount of fake news spread through WhatsApp — the liberal forums in India are filled with stories of how people are losing relationships or finding it difficult to digest the fact that their loved ones are close minded bigots.

Can’t understand what this means. Are you saying the liberal forums are full of people who are struggling with family members who are deluded by WhatsApp based fake news?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After a long and respected career at MIT he’s no joke.

He is not a joke in his field. He is highly intelligent. He has carte blanche to publish commentary on any topic he chooses, and some pundits will pick it up and say see, this well respected and smart guys says this, listen to him!

He's not a joke in our field either unless you're coding in like FLOW-MATIC or assembly.

Re: In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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> NC: One thing that’s happened is the press has been pretty much muzzled. They are very uncritical. This is a big issue with mass media in India that many don’t realize or want to realize. Between — a) most of the mainstream media houses (except a few) not asking tough questions (but supporting the government for everything), b) the Supreme Court ignoring important cases and not hearing them for years and c) the amo…

You can substitute India for America and your points stand.

I think there's lots of blame to go on companies like Cambridge analytica. That tech is literally a weapon of mass destruction.

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After a long and respected career at MIT he’s no joke.

Did he really support the Chavez regime? That’s something I’d like to know.

He isn't some foreign affairs expert. He made the decision to support Chavez based on the information he (and we) had access to at that time, much of which painted Chavez favorably.

We, of course, came to know later that the house was rotting on the inside. But that's just hindsight

Re: In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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> NC: One thing that’s happened is the press has been pretty much muzzled. They are very uncritical. This is a big issue with mass media in India that many don’t realize or want to realize. Between — a) most of the mainstream media houses (except a few) not asking tough questions (but supporting the government for everything), b) the Supreme Court ignoring important cases and not hearing them for years and c) the amo…

Can you give examples of being muzzled?

Internet in Kashmir has been down for the longest period ever in a democracy, 172 days and counting [0]. Several cities in UP, Karnataka also faced Internet shut downs during recent protests [1].

[0] https://www.dw.com/en/indian-court-kashmir-indefinite-intern...

[1] https://www.medianama.com/2019/12/223-internet-shutdown-up-k...

Re: In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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> NC: One thing that’s happened is the press has been pretty much muzzled. They are very uncritical. This is a big issue with mass media in India that many don’t realize or want to realize. Between — a) most of the mainstream media houses (except a few) not asking tough questions (but supporting the government for everything), b) the Supreme Court ignoring important cases and not hearing them for years and c) the amo…

I guess you could say the same in the US. Actual facts and critical discourse have to be actively sought out by people who actually care about these things while the vast majority are swimming in a sea of mainstream media noise.

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Site seems dead. India is home to many minorities, infact the second or third largest Muslim population so it could have not been that without being tolerant to them. Meanwhile Sikhs and hindus are fleeing pakistan. Radesh Singh Tony, the serving president of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s Pakistan Minorities’ Alliance, has been reportedly forced to leave his city in Pakistan https://twitter.com/aoepoeRadesh/status/12202384268…

I dream of a day when India isn't perennially hyphenated to Pakistan.

How does it matter to India how Pakistan treats its minorities? How is that a yardstick for our morality?

Shouldn't the yardstick be a more successful nation a la Norway?

Re: In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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I really struggle to understand the Indian right wing perspective. There is absolutely no practical way to achieve their goal of a theocratic nation with the country still being intact. As much as they might want to fantasize about it, you can't wish away 200M minorities. Nor can you economically progress if 200M minorities are ghettoized.

I agree, though real economic progress doesn't seem like a priority for the government as can be witnessed by the slowdown and silly policies like demonetization.

Re: In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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> NC: One thing that’s happened is the press has been pretty much muzzled. They are very uncritical. This is a big issue with mass media in India that many don’t realize or want to realize. Between — a) most of the mainstream media houses (except a few) not asking tough questions (but supporting the government for everything), b) the Supreme Court ignoring important cases and not hearing them for years and c) the amo…

Can you give examples of being muzzled?

Indian media uncritically promotes government propaganda. I visited my parents back home, and the news channels are unrelenting in their defense of the govt
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