This is standard procedure in these kind of contract fights. I get so sick and tired of government IT contract squabbles. They drag on for years, little usually changes, and, in the meantime the work doesn't get done.
Amazon asks court to halt Microsoft's work on Pentagon 'war cloud'
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#12Didn't Oracle just sue the DoD claiming they wrote the requirements in such a way that only Amazon could get it?
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#13This is standard procedure in these kind of contract fights. I get so sick and tired of government IT contract squabbles. They drag on for years, little usually changes, and, in the meantime the work doesn't get done.
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#14this kind of stuff is such an american way of doing things. - bid for contracts that enables government to make some real progress - lose - sue because you lost, claim winner can’t start until your suit is over - introduce 1-2 year delay of waiting while your complaint is processed and people wonder why china gets things done in a quarter of the time
Yeah, they get things done because they're a totalitarian, completely opaque regime. I'll take western governments with all their faults and inneficiencies, thank you.
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#15this kind of stuff is such an american way of doing things. - bid for contracts that enables government to make some real progress - lose - sue because you lost, claim winner can’t start until your suit is over - introduce 1-2 year delay of waiting while your complaint is processed and people wonder why china gets things done in a quarter of the time
E.g. it took a whole administration (~5 years) to get through with a door-to-door recycling system because of lawsuits and appeals.
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#16This is standard procedure in these kind of contract fights. I get so sick and tired of government IT contract squabbles. They drag on for years, little usually changes, and, in the meantime the work doesn't get done.
Sure, but in this case, the choice of Azure over AWS was due to government corruption, rather than actual technical diligence.
Re: Amazon asks court to halt Microsoft's work on Pentagon 'war cloud'
#17This is standard procedure in these kind of contract fights. I get so sick and tired of government IT contract squabbles. They drag on for years, little usually changes, and, in the meantime the work doesn't get done.
Sure, but in this case, the choice of Azure over AWS was due to government corruption, rather than actual technical diligence.
Re: Amazon asks court to halt Microsoft's work on Pentagon 'war cloud'
#18this kind of stuff is such an american way of doing things. - bid for contracts that enables government to make some real progress - lose - sue because you lost, claim winner can’t start until your suit is over - introduce 1-2 year delay of waiting while your complaint is processed and people wonder why china gets things done in a quarter of the time
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#19But here's the thing: in government it's very important that contracts are awarded on objective merit, because otherwise there's shockingly large opportunity for corruption and favoritism. Billions and billions of dollars of opportunity.
And also in this case, Trump's deep antipathy towards Bezos is well-documented, as well as his willingness to use government means for personal ends. Trump instructing the Pentagon to drop the objectively best bid seems to fit his established pattern of behavior.
So in this case, Amazon's suit seems to be an entirely reasonable response. If what Amazon alleges is true and they win, it will be a victory for good government and correct use of taxpayer dollars. Presidents aren't kings -- it's vitally important for democracy that objective procedures are followed, and that personal grudges aren't allowed to influence multi-billion dollar deals.
Re: Amazon asks court to halt Microsoft's work on Pentagon 'war cloud'
#20This is standard procedure in these kind of contract fights. I get so sick and tired of government IT contract squabbles. They drag on for years, little usually changes, and, in the meantime the work doesn't get done.
Sure, but in this case, the choice of Azure over AWS was due to government corruption, rather than actual technical diligence.