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U.S. surveillance laws have proven ineffective at countering terrorism

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U.S. surveillance laws have proven ineffective at countering terrorism

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Post by burnaway » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 6:24 PM UTC

U.S. surveillance laws have proven ineffective at countering terrorism
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Post by EGreg » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:06 PM UTC

Surveillance is easy when all our communications are going through centralized services. Just another side effect of centralization.

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Post by forgotmypw » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:12 PM UTC

As designed.

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Post by bronlund » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:15 PM UTC

forgotmypw wrote: post #3

As designed.

Present the threat. Present the solution. Rinse. Repeat.

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:26 PM UTC

forgotmypw wrote: post #3

As designed.

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Post by momentmaker » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:29 PM UTC

"Two reasons why people do stuff - one that sounds good and the real reason." - JP Morgan

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Post by datashow » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:35 PM UTC

> "U.S. surveillance laws failed to counter terrorism"

> "The patchwork of U.S. surveillance laws has proven ineffective at countering terrorism"

Where is the proof? I can not find it in the article.

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Post by dx87 » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:38 PM UTC

datashow wrote: post #7

> "U.S. surveillance laws failed to counter terrorism" > "The patchwork of U.S. surveillance laws has proven ineffective at countering terrorism" Where is the proof? I can not find it in the article.

Intel work is like IT; if you're doing it right, nobody knows you're doing anything at all.

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Post by burnaway » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:40 PM UTC

datashow wrote: post #7

> "U.S. surveillance laws failed to counter terrorism" > "The patchwork of U.S. surveillance laws has proven ineffective at countering terrorism" Where is the proof? I can not find it in the article.

Under the section "Surveillance Failures Brought to Light"

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Post by thrillgore » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:42 PM UTC

Perhaps the surveillance state was never meant to stop terrorists, but to trap innocents into an inescapable dragnet.

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