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Re: Fortran.io – a Fortran Web Framework

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> .. Fortran 90 ... Peasants. FORTRAN-77 is the real Fortran.

Fortran 77 has a lot of luxuries compared to FORTRAN IV, I have to say.

Paradise! We had to wake up a half an hour before we went to bed to use FRTRN 0.1, with punch cards made from rolled-up, discarded newspapers!

Re: Fortran.io – a Fortran Web Framework

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Fortran actually isn't a static language. It's evolved over time. The last significant revision according to wikipedia is just over a year old. The beauty and horror of it probably depends which era of it you're looking at.

IIRC, most people who use Fortran use it because there are extremely specialized physics libraries (or astronomy, or chemistry, and so on) that were probably written three to four decades ago by an extremely intelligent PhD student who lacks a proper programming background.

Which suggests that the biggest source of horror would be that most code you'll come across was written by a non-programmer who is intelligent enough to translate an extremely complicated and niche problem domain into very clever and completely un-idiomatic code, who likely was unable to read their own library mere months after graduating because most PhDs don't fully understand their own thesis within months after graduating.

Re: Fortran.io – a Fortran Web Framework

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post #26

Fortran actually isn't a static language. It's evolved over time. The last significant revision according to wikipedia is just over a year old. The beauty and horror of it probably depends which era of it you're looking at.

In the late 90s I remember a saying roughly "I don't know what language scientists will be using in 20 years, but it will probably be named Fortran"

As someone professionally involved with computational physics / geophysics, I can vouch that Fortran is still heavily used in these domains.

EDIT: for a modern, relatively new and highly-used scientific codebase that uses Fortran90 exclusively, see PFLOTRAN: https://bitbucket.org/pflotran/pflotran/src/master/

Re: Fortran.io – a Fortran Web Framework

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post #14

Every day we drift further from god.

I'm not picking on your metaphor, but I don't understand it either. Mind elaborating?

Drifting further from god is a metaphor for moving closer to hell. He is implying that developing for the web using FORTRAN is moving us closer to existing in hell.

Re: Fortran.io – a Fortran Web Framework

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post #10

> Fortran never left us... it runs our mainframes today. What? That's where you lost me.

IIRC, FORTRAN is used heavily in the LINPACK/LAPACK libraries which are further used in higher level libraries such as numpy. So it’s likely true that it still sees use in control software running trains, banks, air traffic control, etc.

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