This gives me tremendous respect for Jeff. Most likely his marriage fell apart because of this costing him personally ~25B. But that means that he didn't give in to whatever Mr Prince wanted.
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Trevor Perrin and Moxie Marlinspike won the Levchin Prize at Real World Crypto for Signal's cryptography; the Levchin Prize referees are a who's who of academic cryptography, including Dan Boneh, Kenny Paterson, and Nigel Smart; other Levchin winners have included Hugo Krawczyk, Mihir Bellare, and Joan Daemon. Any suggestion that Telegram's cryptography is somehow comparable owing to "half of them Ph.D's in math", or…
Has there been any weakness found in Telegram's encryption?
Had to exit read only mode to address this.
While there's only one vuln that have been discussed publicly at HN. The only issue is they are in russian as well.
At least one more was exposed[0] by the same person shortly after, i mean days after the initial. Over here[1] the same researcher wonders whether any other flaws exist.
And here's[2] how the self-proclaimed `part time-troll` Pavel Durov (the Telegram CEO) reacts to [1]. To me it's obvious he is being haugty towards HN community with `venerable HN cryptographers`.
To add to his general slandering approach towards competition while handling own product flaws without any transparency and publicity mind his company is now under investigation by SEC[3].
[0] https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https...
[1] https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https...
[2] https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ru&tl=en&u=htt...
[3] https://www.natlawreview.com/article/let-slip-dogs-war-sec-v...
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess Khashoggi must have really annoyed MBS. This has now cost the Saudis at least ten times as much goodwill as all anti-Saudi editorials in the Post and everywhere else together. That, or it was a favour to MBS American friends. The other people involved (David Pecker et al) and MBS do share a few friends in the White House, who also seem obsessed with the Washington Post and Bezos himself.
Khashoggi wrote for the Washington Post, so it wouldn’t be a favor for Trump. It would be consistent with his own motivations for murdering Khashoggi.
Why can't both be true? Murder your enemy while making your friend a little bit happier. Khashoggi was highly critical of Trump in the month leading up to his beheading.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
This does seem the most likely, as hard as it is to believe. I guess when you have hierarchies based on blood rather than competency, this is what you end up with.
That and no outside government has every held them accountable for anything. Or him accountable for anything.
This is so true.
Remember when his family crashed 4 jets in the USA while they were hanging out with Bush? (Really, this is all factual).
Somehow they convinced us to invade Afghanistan and Iraq when it was a Saudi billionaire and a legion of Saudis who perpetrated the attack.
Re: Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'
#235Explanation 1: Lauren Sanchez(bezos' new girfiend) along with her brother Michael(who is also her agent), leaked the story to force Bezos to divorce his wife and get along with her. Explanation 2: The crown prince of Saudi Arabia personally sent a trojan file, downloaded all the data, distributed it through a gossip rag he happens to be friends with, for some kind of revenge/message I get why Bezos has to go with exp…
The motives for explanation 2 are currently not known. MBS might have had numerous reasons, ranging from WaPo or AWS. But regardless, there could have been many reasons to target Bezos. The part that doesn't sit right with me is the leaks, since it would have burned the 0day and connected Saudis to hacking phones which I doubt they would have wanted.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
David Pecker was, IIRC, the guy who also directed the 'catch and kill' with Stormy Daniels just before the 2016 election. https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-trumps-fixers-silenced-sto...
While David Pecker was involved in the brokering of the hush money deal with Stormy Daniels, which Michael Cohen eventually made (and prosecuted for), the "catch and kill" payment was made to Karen McDougal, which was another Trump affair.
It is insane to me that Trump is a pariah for the religion crowd
Re: Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'
#237Pavel Durov argued that WhatsApp's vulnerabilities are intentionally created as part of surveillance programs with government agencies. [1] If that were true, Bezos's case would be an example of how that approach to security is double-edged. Backdoors can be just as useful to foreign intelligence as they are to whoever pushed for their implementation. [1] https://t.me/s/durov/109
Pavel Durov also said > The encryption of Signal (=WhatsApp, FB) was funded by the US Government. I predict a backdoor will be found there within 5 years from now. He seems to enjoy throwing out loosly supported accusations. He might be right in some of them, but stopped clocks and so forth. He's also been accused himself of deliberately sabotaging the security of his own encrypted messenger app (Telegram). There's n…
I think this is the reason he is sure about backdoors in messengers (US agency supposedly asked about that several of his developers):
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#238Re: Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'
#239Explanation 1: Lauren Sanchez(bezos' new girfiend) along with her brother Michael(who is also her agent), leaked the story to force Bezos to divorce his wife and get along with her. Explanation 2: The crown prince of Saudi Arabia personally sent a trojan file, downloaded all the data, distributed it through a gossip rag he happens to be friends with, for some kind of revenge/message I get why Bezos has to go with exp…
If you take into account that MBS murdered an employee of Bezos, explanation #2 sounds plausible.