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Yeah, you can't really talk about downsides of Recaptcha/Cloudflare without also acknowledging the extreme amount of malicious actors and abuse on the internet. We're in a "this is why we can't have nice things" predicament and you have malicious actors to thank for that, yet most people on HN only seem capable of attacking the few affordable solutions to that problem. I'm even down with the theory that Cloudflare is…
For caching: Learn how to code. If your web page dies when there are only two visitors, then that's on you. DDoS attack: If possible, the easiest solution is to just swallow the traffic. If that doesn't work you want to block all networks that allows IP spoofing. Then it's a wack-a-mole game. And if you have the resources, use any-cast and many co-locations. Or ask your ISP for help. Hiding your server: Use onion add…
Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me
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Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, you can't really talk about downsides of Recaptcha/Cloudflare without also acknowledging the extreme amount of malicious actors and abuse on the internet. We're in a "this is why we can't have nice things" predicament and you have malicious actors to thank for that, yet most people on HN only seem capable of attacking the few affordable solutions to that problem. I'm even down with the theory that Cloudflare is…
> Let's hear some real solutions. It's by no means a full solution (there likely is no single full solution), and it may even be a bad solution -- but lately I've been trying to think about what the Internet would look like if we didn't have a massive arbitrage potential around server requests. Part of the reason why everyone is trying to detect bots is because bots will very, very rapidly eat up your bandwidth and C…
It is?
Thought bot detection was only done during registration etc. to stop them from sending spam etc. to real users.
If anything the javascript world we live in helps combat this. You need insane resources on the client just to have a page open. Several orders of magnitude more than the server need to generate and send that page.
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It really hits home the point of how shitty the web has become. Ad companies and malware distributors come up with bad and worse ways to interfere with my browsing, and the “good guys” need to match with increasingly invasive and fragile anti measures. Sort of like having to take of your shoes when you board a plane. If that’s what it takes, isn’t it just better to stay home?
> Sort of like having to take of your shoes when you board a plane. If that’s what it takes, isn’t it just better to stay home? Removal of shoes, 'naked' full body scanners, these are all terrible, and I tell myself every time it isn't worth the hassle. The reality is that as much as I hate it, I'm still flying every other week. I'm also on the Internet daily. I don't see that changing.
Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me
#264The problem presented by services like ReCaptcha and Cloudflare is a tough nut to crack. They're silently embedded in a huge portion of modern websites, and the average user will never even know about them. But it seems to be way too easy for them to blanket-ban or serve an absurd amount of captchas to powerusers, linux gurus, privacy geeks, or anyone with the wrong combination of browser+addons. And the failures (as…
Aren't there configuration options/levels that can be set within CloudFlare to mitigate these issues? EDIT: Another user posted this below, answering my question: sgtfrankieboy 1 hour ago | undown [-] In CloudFlare go to "Firewall" and then click Settings on the right. Here you can set the Security Level and if you want to use Browser Integrity Checks among other thing
Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me
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Yeah, because most custom browsers are malicious. They have the data to prove it. This isn't a side feature, it's a direct feature that is 100% intentional. They maintain a backend whitelist of known "good" user-agents. Curl is on that list and there are a few others outside of the big players. Most people building custom browsers are doing it to do something Chrome would disallow. One instance would only supporting…
> This isn't a side feature, it's a direct feature that is 100% intentional. So Cloudflare is intentionally breaking the web? Good to know.
Is this such a novel thing to look for outliers in web traffic and offer ways to mitigate risks?
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#266To be fair, site owners are in control of those settings.
What are the defaults of those settings? What percentage of site owners change the defaults? It's kind of like saying "it's your own fault you didn't de-select the "track everything I do" checkbox on our privacy page".
Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me
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I have a little tip for you; right-click your back arrow, and choose your search page from the list.
At least on iOS Safari there's this bug (feels like it's always been there, maybe content blocker related?) where sometimes a search simply gets eaten. The browser somehow thinks you went from nowhere straight to the page you're on, even though you went past a Google results page. I assume it's somehow redirect-related and that's why these sites tend to trigger it.
- you tapped the “Siri suggestion” result which completely skips the SERP. I hate that “back” doesn’t bring you back to what I typed in the search/URL bar
- I regularly visit The Verge, open a story and then the back button doesn’t take me to the homepage but to the page before it. I blame their crappy JavaScript but maybe we’re experiencing the same thing.
Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me
#268It's like complaining that airport security checks your bags when you have gun-shaped objects inside it.
Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me
#269It appears that you may have made some modifications to your user agent string. If you revert your user agent to the one provided by default by your browser vendor everything will be fine.
Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me
#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
It really hits home the point of how shitty the web has become. Ad companies and malware distributors come up with bad and worse ways to interfere with my browsing, and the “good guys” need to match with increasingly invasive and fragile anti measures. Sort of like having to take of your shoes when you board a plane. If that’s what it takes, isn’t it just better to stay home?
> Sort of like having to take of your shoes when you board a plane. If that’s what it takes, isn’t it just better to stay home? Removal of shoes, 'naked' full body scanners, these are all terrible, and I tell myself every time it isn't worth the hassle. The reality is that as much as I hate it, I'm still flying every other week. I'm also on the Internet daily. I don't see that changing.
I hate the direction the internet and tech is going, and I hate even more that I'm seemingly powerless to do anything about it