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Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trevor Perrin and Moxie Marlinspike won the Levchin Prize at Real World Crypto for Signal's cryptography; the Levchin Prize referees are a who's who of academic cryptography, including Dan Boneh, Kenny Paterson, and Nigel Smart; other Levchin winners have included Hugo Krawczyk, Mihir Bellare, and Joan Daemon. Any suggestion that Telegram's cryptography is somehow comparable owing to "half of them Ph.D's in math", or…

Has there been any weakness found in Telegram's encryption?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6948742

Re: Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'

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Pavel Durov argued that WhatsApp's vulnerabilities are intentionally created as part of surveillance programs with government agencies. [1] If that were true, Bezos's case would be an example of how that approach to security is double-edged. Backdoors can be just as useful to foreign intelligence as they are to whoever pushed for their implementation. [1] https://t.me/s/durov/109

Within days of their launch, Telegram was discovered to have huge vulnerabilities that resulted from them rolling their own crypto: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6948742 , so I'm not sure they should be throwing stones about other people's bugs.

I don't even have to open the link to know those are still theoretical vulns at best...because as far as I know, there has been no successful implementation of them.

Re: Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Within days of their launch, Telegram was discovered to have huge vulnerabilities that resulted from them rolling their own crypto: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6948742 , so I'm not sure they should be throwing stones about other people's bugs.

I don't even have to open the link to know those are still theoretical vulns at best...because as far as I know, there has been no successful implementation of them.

Full disclosure: I've moved on from Telegram, but I'd use them again in a heartbeat if it was them or a FB owned property.

Re: Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has there been any weakness found in Telegram's encryption?

I don't know of any directly related to it's encryption but multiple protest organizers were identified and arrested by the Hong Kong Police Force through Telegram, I'm not 100% sure but I believe they just added lists of suspected phone numbers onto their phones and looked in Telegram see which one's matched to Group admins.

That theory is quite possible. If the police join the group, they know the usernames of all of the people in the group, they can then start adding numbers to their contacts and if any of the usernames from the group show up they can then look up who owns the phone number in the government database.

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One thing which this article doesn't address at all, is what is the beef between MBS and Bezos? Why would the Saudi prince leak this data? How did Amazon upset him?

Perhaps as a favor to Trump who constantly whines about WaPo and Bezos?

Very curious about the downvotes on this one. Trump has clearly demonstrated time and again that he is not above egregiously and obviously breaking the law to further his personal interests. He has been willing to overlook cold-blooded murder by MBS specifically. So this speculation is very comfortably (or uncomfortably, as it were) within the realm of reasonable speculation, is it not?

Re: Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'

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One thing which this article doesn't address at all, is what is the beef between MBS and Bezos? Why would the Saudi prince leak this data? How did Amazon upset him?

Perhaps as a favor to Trump who constantly whines about WaPo and Bezos?

“I would like you to do US a favor though...”

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Explanation 1: Lauren Sanchez(bezos' new girfiend) along with her brother Michael(who is also her agent), leaked the story to force Bezos to divorce his wife and get along with her. Explanation 2: The crown prince of Saudi Arabia personally sent a trojan file, downloaded all the data, distributed it through a gossip rag he happens to be friends with, for some kind of revenge/message I get why Bezos has to go with exp…

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Re: Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'

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OK, so I'm just a random anonymous coward. And arguably obsessed with my hobby. But I'm puzzled that Bezos would be corresponding with MBS on the same device that he uses for potentially embarrassing personal stuff. Isn't that just a totally obvious OPSEC fail? Edit: But that's what he did, isn't it? And how could that be considered safe?

Sure. Maybe he wasn’t super worried about getting caught cheating on his wife. A few billion dollars pays for a lot of alimony and lawyers.

More like $38 billion, I doubt he's happy about it.
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