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Re: 28-Key Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by legionof7 »

clarry wrote: post #37
molteanu wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've tried CTL_T(KC_F) for a single day only. I though it was a good idea to have all the modifiers under the home row. It doesn't seem like the index finger is a strong finger as it started to hurt after only a few hours of heavy use. Neither the other ones seem to be strong enough except (I'm hoping) the thumbs. So for now I'm mapping Ctrl to the thumb cluster (on an Ergodox) and the lesser used modifiers like Alt…

I think lowering makes these unintended presses more likely; raising makes them less likely, but then I'm less likely to get a modifier when I want (because I type the combo too quick). I initially lowered it from the default of 200 to 150, and I've been slowly raising it back. I think it's 185 now but I might go back to 200. Only that will just make it miss more quick combos. As for index: I don't think it's so much…

Yeah, I made binds for CTRL+Z/A/C/V/X with the lower modifier so I can use my left thumb + ASDF for them.

Re: 28-Key Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Stratoscope »

dangus wrote: post #59

Tsk! PC users keep trying to reduce key counts while Apple is decades ahead with the MacBook Wheel.

For anyone who missed the announcement, here is the MacBook Wheel:

https://www.theonion.com/apple-introduces-revolutionary-new-...

I wouldn't say it is "decades" ahead, though. Lenovo just announced the competing ThinkPad X1 Fold:

https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/worlds-firs...

Re: 28-Key Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by beatgammit »

amelius wrote: post #11
ardy42 wrote: post #2

I don't get the obsession with custom keyboard with ever fewer keys. If I designed one, if anything it would have at least a few more modifier keys that a standard keyboard.

I don't get why most keyboards available in stores have a numpad. I never use it, and it takes up valuable space on my desk. I wonder how many people actually use the numpad section of a keyboard on a daily basis.

I use it all the time for entering IP addresses, numbers in a spreadsheet, and doing quick math in a calculator.

My current keyboard doesn't have one (it shipped faster and that was more important to me at the time), and I really miss it, and I'm thinking of getting a separate 10-key. I thought it wouldn't miss it that much, but I use numbers frequently enough that it's noticeable.

I wish keyboards had removable 10-keys so I could save space on my desk until I need it. Likewise for page-up (etc) and arrow keys.

Re: 28-Key Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by rahimnathwani »

beatgammit wrote: post #73
amelius wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why most keyboards available in stores have a numpad. I never use it, and it takes up valuable space on my desk. I wonder how many people actually use the numpad section of a keyboard on a daily basis.

I use it all the time for entering IP addresses, numbers in a spreadsheet, and doing quick math in a calculator. My current keyboard doesn't have one (it shipped faster and that was more important to me at the time), and I really miss it, and I'm thinking of getting a separate 10-key. I thought it wouldn't miss it that much, but I use numbers frequently enough that it's noticeable. I wish keyboards had removable 10-k…

"I wish keyboards had removable 10-keys so I could save space on my desk until I need it."

The Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Wireless comes with a separate number pad, which you can place wherever you like.

Re: 28-Key Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by filoleg »

gonehome wrote: post #56
filoleg wrote: post #26

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Agreed. I feel like HHKB hits that sweet spot where it is minimalistic, but still very usable without messing with layers. If it had just a few more buttons (left Ctrl + arrow keys; though I personally don't care for left Ctrl, as I have remapped it to CapsLock, just Like I do on every keyboard), then I wouldn't even need to use the Fn key at all either.

Part of the reason I’ve stuck with the HHKB for a few years now is that I like its default arrow key layout better than regular arrow keys. Using your right pinkie to hit function and then having the arrows right there is nice. I also use caps lock as control and it’s nice to have it as a hardware default in the HHKB too.

Oh yeah, totally agreed, I absolutely love how the arrow keys work on HHKB. I would be lying if I said there wasn't a learning curve to it, however. First few weeks, i was definitely missing the correct keys, but once it got into my muscle memory, it became great.

Re: 28-Key Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by somehnguy »

ardy42 wrote: post #2

I don't get the obsession with custom keyboard with ever fewer keys. If I designed one, if anything it would have at least a few more modifier keys that a standard keyboard.

I'm a fan of 60% or tenkeyless (TKL) keyboards personally. I get this weird feeling of my desk being cramped that I really don't like sometimes. A TKL keyboard solved that for me. And don't miss the numpad because I don't enter long strings of numbers much anyway.

Re: 28-Key Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by MH15 »

unsignedint wrote: post #62
amelius wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why most keyboards available in stores have a numpad. I never use it, and it takes up valuable space on my desk. I wonder how many people actually use the numpad section of a keyboard on a daily basis.

I use it all the time to enter numbers (more than a few -- it becomes very cumbersome without one for more than a few.) Also I use it for software like Blender for camera controls. (Though this is probably more of a niche use case...)

I was about to comment this. I just recently got a keyboard with full numpad on my computer that I use Blender on and it makes a world of difference. Usually I just use it to switch from perspective to orthographic and to view front.

Re: 28-Key Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by mello151 »

somehnguy wrote: post #77
ardy42 wrote: post #2

I don't get the obsession with custom keyboard with ever fewer keys. If I designed one, if anything it would have at least a few more modifier keys that a standard keyboard.

I'm a fan of 60% or tenkeyless (TKL) keyboards personally. I get this weird feeling of my desk being cramped that I really don't like sometimes. A TKL keyboard solved that for me. And don't miss the numpad because I don't enter long strings of numbers much anyway.

I'm right there with you. It feels much better to me to be able to have the mouse more in-front of me than off to the side, especially when gaming.

I tried to go 60%(?) with a Pok3r but I like having the arrow keys available without having to use a modifier key.

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