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First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

ping_pong wrote: post #74
satokema_work wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish wearing hospital masks was more accepted. Out of the listed reactions, it's probably the least overreaction possible, especially if it's a fashionable one and not actually hospital color...

Hospital masks by itself would not help prevent things like SARS. In Toronto, health care workers were getting infected even after following the strictest protocols.

If there was definite evidence that wearing masks helped prevent catching flu, at the very least you would see them used in occupations where the cost of an employee being out with the flu for a week is very high. Since we don't see this, they are probably ineffective.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by ethanbond »

0xff00ffee wrote: post #55
satokema_work wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish wearing hospital masks was more accepted. Out of the listed reactions, it's probably the least overreaction possible, especially if it's a fashionable one and not actually hospital color...

I always thought wearing hospital masks was for infected people, not the other way around.

In Asian cultures it is. In western cultures, sick people aren't nearly so respectful, so then the masks become for the healthy folks.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by metalliqaz »

nexuist wrote: post #93
swamp40 wrote: post #87

Reports are that China has just quarantined Wuhan, a city of 11 million people.

Logistically, how can they do this?

China has the largest active military in the world, according to this list in Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of...

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by yingw787 »

eindiran wrote: post #86
yingw787 wrote: post #38

I read on Reddit that Chinese New Year is the largest regularly occurring human migration event in the world. Millions of Chinese people gather on public transport and planes To go home to celebrate. It’s in a few days I think. Also I’m not sure how the CDC is preparing for this under 45, but given the state of the federal government I would guess it’s less prepared than the days of the Ebola scare. Hopefully things…

Wow, I had been under the impression that the Arba'een Pilgrimage[0] was the largest human annual migration but the Lunar New Year easily surpasses it. This article has some good info on the sizes of a few recurring migrations and their size: https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2018/02/14/chines... The infographic is absolutely crazy: https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2018/02/... [0] https://…

I was under that impression too! Maybe it’s because the Hajj has much more disparate travelers that I bin it under “migration”.

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Post by duncanawoods »

munificent wrote: post #63
glofish wrote: post #17

I feel like it has been so long since the swine flu, bird flu, H1N1 flu, and other flu scares that we are due for one. Like the recessions the flu scares are cyclical.

The Spanish Flu was almost exactly 100 years ago. Recent enough that we think of it as being in modern times with relatively modern medicine and hospitals. My grandmother lived through it, so this isn't the distant past. Current estimates are that it killed up to 100,000,000 million people, as many as the black plague. We have much better medicine now, thankfully. But we also live in a much more deeply connected worl…

It's curious how little cultural impact it has compared to the world wars or Black Plague despite the death-toll. I've never seen a TV series or film about it or any art, songs or phrases. There is no iconic photograph that comes to mind. It's just a minor footnote to WW1. I don't know if it's wartime censorship or just overshadowed but it's really quite odd.

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Post by yingw787 »

tenpies wrote: post #88
yingw787 wrote: post #38

I read on Reddit that Chinese New Year is the largest regularly occurring human migration event in the world. Millions of Chinese people gather on public transport and planes To go home to celebrate. It’s in a few days I think. Also I’m not sure how the CDC is preparing for this under 45, but given the state of the federal government I would guess it’s less prepared than the days of the Ebola scare. Hopefully things…

> Also I’m not sure how the CDC is preparing for this under 45, but given the state of the federal government I would guess it’s less prepared than the days of the Ebola scare. Despite "45" apparently being such a comic book villain as to warrant "guess[ing the CDC is] less prepared", the CDC has actually had guidelines out since August 2019: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/mers/preparedness/checklist-... This is par…

I mean, it’s not like I’ll be happy if the CDC and the federal government is unprepared and this becomes concerning and people die. If they’re prepared, then that’s good for everybody, and I am wishing the CDC success in its efforts to keep us safe. Thank you for posting links!

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by yingw787 »

yingw787 wrote: post #95
eindiran wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, I had been under the impression that the Arba'een Pilgrimage[0] was the largest human annual migration but the Lunar New Year easily surpasses it. This article has some good info on the sizes of a few recurring migrations and their size: https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2018/02/14/chines... The infographic is absolutely crazy: https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2018/02/... [0] https://…

I was under that impression too! Maybe it’s because the Hajj has much more disparate travelers that I bin it under “migration”.

Whoops, confused Hajj with Arba’een. I did not know about the latter and I assumed that they were the same. Arba’een is much larger than the Hajj.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by Supermancho »

jpollock wrote: post #12
xienze wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a case where a Chinese travel ban would actually be a good idea. Though I'm sure if Trump were to propose that a judge in Hawaii would immediately issue an injunction.

Travel bans don't work for infectious disease management. Humans travel around barriers, and the disease generally doesn't care where the border is. Even worse, it will limit the ability for organisations to get staff and resources to affected regions, and move patients around to places with the ability to treat them. https://www.vox.com/2014/10/18/6994413/research-travel-bans-...

> Travel bans don't work for infectious disease management.

That is incorrect. It works marginally and temporarily.

> Even worse, it will limit the ability for organisations to get staff and resources to affected regions,

That's a matter of implementation. Making blanket statements about the future of a social agreement that doesn't exist, is speculation.

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