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Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by gpm »

Liquix wrote: post #17

The problem presented by services like ReCaptcha and Cloudflare is a tough nut to crack. They're silently embedded in a huge portion of modern websites, and the average user will never even know about them. But it seems to be way too easy for them to blanket-ban or serve an absurd amount of captchas to powerusers, linux gurus, privacy geeks, or anyone with the wrong combination of browser+addons. And the failures (as…

4. Power users and nerds need to upstream the privacy improvements to everyone.

- To do so you need to avoid making user experience worse

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by mschuster91 »

ecnahc515 wrote: post #25
bluetidepro wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...yes, they have and they will again. I don't doubt this, but do you have more info on what you're referring to on "they have"? I'm a bit out of the loop on that.

There's been a few occurrences of them terminating service for the sites promoting extremist views, eg: https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/ I don't entirely disagree with it but it's censorship nonetheless.

It's not censorship. The Internet is a vast space, someone will host your stuff.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by djannzjkzxn »

reaperducer wrote: post #27
djannzjkzxn wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re also using your labor to train models by serving you pages and checking which links you click. No js required.

Just because he's being exploited by Google in one way doesn't mean he has to allow himself to be exploited in every possible way.

If you care about being exploited, it’s worthwhile to know when it’s happening, so you can consider your return on effort for avoiding it.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by jagger27 »

chewmieser wrote: post #23
jagger27 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The simplest way is just to use CloudFlare for DNS only (grey cloud button) until you're under attack. edit: do not follow my advice

This is a horrible recommendation and will ensure that the attack can continue after activating CloudFlare. You've already exposed your origin's IPs in this circumstance.

Yikes, of course.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by edf13 »

There is a stage where "good" companies get so big that they can't really be "good" (For all)...

Cloudfare has passed that point a while back. They have so many policies, departments, shareholders and government departments to please that it is now impossible for them to be a truly good force the open internet.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by inetknght »

partiallypro wrote: post #29
Dunedan wrote: post #5

There is another side effect of visiting sites served by CloudFlare with disabled JavaScript: Email addresses (or any other words separated by an @) appear as "[email protected]" instead. Take this blog post from CloudFlare themselves for example: https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-performance-compariso... That's just ridiculous.

How is it ridiculous? It's called email obfuscation (it can be disabled within Cloudflare) it's to stop spam bots from ripping email addresses from websites and adding them to mailing lists.

The problem is therefore spam bots abusing the email system.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by hombre_fatal »

Liquix wrote: post #17

The problem presented by services like ReCaptcha and Cloudflare is a tough nut to crack. They're silently embedded in a huge portion of modern websites, and the average user will never even know about them. But it seems to be way too easy for them to blanket-ban or serve an absurd amount of captchas to powerusers, linux gurus, privacy geeks, or anyone with the wrong combination of browser+addons. And the failures (as…

Yeah, you can't really talk about downsides of Recaptcha/Cloudflare without also acknowledging the extreme amount of malicious actors and abuse on the internet.

We're in a "this is why we can't have nice things" predicament and you have malicious actors to thank for that, yet most people on HN only seem capable of attacking the few affordable solutions to that problem.

I'm even down with the theory that Cloudflare is a US government outfit, that's the only way I can wrap my head around such a generous free tier. But at what point does it worry you that the internet has so many fundamental issues that people willingly centralize behind such a large behemoth? How many options do I have when a kid is holding my forum hostage with a $5 booter service?

It's easy to shit on everything. Let's hear some real solutions.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by Valmar »

kradeelav wrote: post #28
corobo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any evidence of this? I'd take a dodgy looking blogspot URL over absolute nothing

OP is most likely referring to the news/articles when they shut down service for neo-nazi sites. There may be others I'm unaware of.

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Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by sgtfrankieboy »

hmhrex wrote: post #10
phillipseamore wrote: post #2

To be fair, site owners are in control of those settings.

Which settings would those be? I'm using Cloudflare for a couple of my sites, and if I can fix this, I will. Otherwise I'll stop using Cloudflare.

In CloudFlare go to "Firewall" and then click Settings on the right.

Here you can set the Security Level and if you want to use Browser Integrity Checks among other things.

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