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Glenn Greenwald Charged with Cybercrimes in Brazil

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Re: Glenn Greenwald Charged with Cybercrimes in Brazil

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Oof. I don’t know why he would stay in Brazil while publishing stuff that embarrassed powerful interests in Brazil. You can do that shit in Canada, in Brazil you’re lucky to not get a bullet.

He has husband and 4 kids in Brazil. Not easy to move when you have roots in a place.

> Not easy to move when you have roots in a place.

As a Brazilian in voluntary exile due to the violence, I'd respectfully point out that it's also not easy to move when you're dead

Re: Glenn Greenwald Charged with Cybercrimes in Brazil

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He has husband and 4 kids in Brazil. Not easy to move when you have roots in a place.

> Not easy to move when you have roots in a place. As a Brazilian in voluntary exile due to the violence, I'd respectfully point out that it's also not easy to move when you're dead

"Many courageous Brazilians sacrificed their liberty and even life for Brazilian democracy and against repression, and I feel an obligation to continue their noble work." - Greenwald to The Daily Beast today

Re: Glenn Greenwald Charged with Cybercrimes in Brazil

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Oof. I don’t know why he would stay in Brazil while publishing stuff that embarrassed powerful interests in Brazil. You can do that shit in Canada, in Brazil you’re lucky to not get a bullet.

He has husband and 4 kids in Brazil. Not easy to move when you have roots in a place.

His husband is a Brazilian politician too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miranda_(politician)

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Last time I checked Glenn Greenwald was saying that Russian interference had nothing to do with results of the last election and Hillary lost because she was a bad candidate. I have no quibble with the bad candidate line, but it's pretty clear that the Russians we're actively involved trying to get Trump elected. I think some people have legitimate disagreements with Glenn.

It's possible for the Russians to be actively involved in trying to get Trump elected and for Russian interference to have nothing to do with the results of the last election. The conclusion would simply be that the Russians sucked at their election meddling, or more neutrally, that foreign interference is dwarfed by the independent effect of charisma on 200M American voters.

Re: Glenn Greenwald Charged with Cybercrimes in Brazil

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Why does it have to be one or the other?

If you're 'speaking truth to power' only when it suits your already formed opinion, then you're not really speaking truth.

You're speaking truth whenever what you're saying is true.

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In my city I often hear people joking that they'll "move to Canada" if politics gets too annoying for them e.g. Trump is re-elected. I imagine for them, spending a few minutes with Greenwald's principles would be a 2001: A Space Odyssey-level of alien environment.

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Last time I checked Glenn Greenwald was saying that Russian interference had nothing to do with results of the last election and Hillary lost because she was a bad candidate. I have no quibble with the bad candidate line, but it's pretty clear that the Russians we're actively involved trying to get Trump elected. I think some people have legitimate disagreements with Glenn.

It's possible for the Russians to be actively involved in trying to get Trump elected and for Russian interference to have nothing to do with the results of the last election. The conclusion would simply be that the Russians sucked at their election meddling, or more neutrally, that foreign interference is dwarfed by the independent effect of charisma on 200M American voters.

When elections are this close, it's impossible to say that any one factor had "nothing to do" with the outcome.

It was clear this was going to be a problem after the 2000 Presidential election came down to a few semi-literate Floridians. One definition of "chaos" is a system involving large numbers with sensitive dependence on very small margins, and that's what we have here.

Edit: Well, I guess we're still hearing from the semi-literate Floridians. What are the high schools teaching kids about that election, anyway?

Re: Glenn Greenwald Charged with Cybercrimes in Brazil

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Oof. I don’t know why he would stay in Brazil while publishing stuff that embarrassed powerful interests in Brazil. You can do that shit in Canada, in Brazil you’re lucky to not get a bullet.

You can publish a handful of stories from abroad but continuing and actually making a larger impact is hard to do from outside the country. If you are able to it's most likely because of other people who did stay are are risking their lives by feeding you information.

Re: Glenn Greenwald Charged with Cybercrimes in Brazil

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Last time I checked Glenn Greenwald was saying that Russian interference had nothing to do with results of the last election and Hillary lost because she was a bad candidate. I have no quibble with the bad candidate line, but it's pretty clear that the Russians we're actively involved trying to get Trump elected. I think some people have legitimate disagreements with Glenn.

It's possible for the Russians to be actively involved in trying to get Trump elected and for Russian interference to have nothing to do with the results of the last election. The conclusion would simply be that the Russians sucked at their election meddling, or more neutrally, that foreign interference is dwarfed by the independent effect of charisma on 200M American voters.

> on 200M American voters

The election where 200M people vote will be a record. By a large large margin. I think the highest turnout has been 120M.

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