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Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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I wish there was a way to directly help Bing/DuckDuckGo/Yandex improve their search results. I've tried both, and it's just not the same. Google I can bang in cryptic queries like > centos 7 tuned no daemon and get the 3rd link about how to run tuned in a no daemon mode. Bing/DuckDuckGo have the article at around 7th or 8th place, but prefaced by a lot of "while technically not wrong, not what I'm looking for" links.…

In my opinion, the results on DDG et al are a matter of users being trained by Google knowing too much about them. If you search "Django" on Google and get relevant results, it's because Google knows you. On DDG you need to search "Django framework".

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Prefer DuckDuckGo for searching, if possible. If you don't like DuckDuckGo's results and can't tolerate them, then prefer Startpage to Google, which will give you the same algorithm minus tracking/customization. Even post-acquisition, Startpage is still a more privacy-conscious engine than Google, and their ads are better labeled. And while I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, quick reminder that unless you're r…

I like DDG, but have been using Ecosia for the past 6 months or so. I like that I've contributed to planting 25 trees (by the averages) just in my normal course of searching.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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They absolutely did not. But even if that were true, how does that excuse this awful behavior?

Well clearly they built it so they own it. So if you don’t like it, it’s their way or the highway!

> they built it

What exactly did they built? AFAIK, even search engines already existed when they entered the game(they just did it better). The fundamental protocols that makes the web work weren't invented by them. What made you think "they built the web"?

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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No, but I wish I did. Shillcusations aren't very nice by the way. You seemed earnest about it, but usually they're used to lazily discredit somebody without any proof.

I did and I'm sorry about that. I shouldn't have treated you that way. I do think internal corporate propaganda is a real thing from FAANG employees on HN whether intentional or not, but how I commented isn't the way to handle it.

I appreciate that, thank you.

I imagine there probably are a lot of FAANG employees on HN. Though in my opinion, just sharing their view isn't inherently a bad thing. It only becomes a problem when they're encouraged to share from their employers. That would be propaganda.

If anything though, hearing from insiders may actually be more informative, or offer a new context that we can't see from the outside.

You have to be aware of bias, but that's just as true for other comments too.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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And we're all poorer for it. They have taken a public service and molded into something that makes money for them and only for them. And all the while (maybe gradually) they've masqueraded as some benevolent philanthropy. The day "don't be evil" came off their motto is the day they conceded they are evil. At least as evil as any publicly trading company has to be.

Releasing hundreds of open-source tools and donating protocols to standards bodies is really not what I would consider evil. The web is a thousand times better now than it was ten years ago. And despite the frequent misinformation, "Don't be evil" has never once left their code of conduct.

> The web is a thousand times better now than it was ten years ago.

I disagree wholeheartedly. I think the web is much worse than it was ten years ago, and the trendline indicates that it will continue on that trajectory.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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read. more. tech. history. You have no idea how furious your comment made me.

What would you recommend to read?

Even Wikipedia would be a good start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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I wish there was a way to directly help Bing/DuckDuckGo/Yandex improve their search results. I've tried both, and it's just not the same. Google I can bang in cryptic queries like > centos 7 tuned no daemon and get the 3rd link about how to run tuned in a no daemon mode. Bing/DuckDuckGo have the article at around 7th or 8th place, but prefaced by a lot of "while technically not wrong, not what I'm looking for" links.…

> Bing/DuckDuckGo have the article at around 7th or 8th place,

You should take a closer look at DDG, it has the answer from serverfault.com in an instant answers box for your query and it highlights the required setting in a perfectly chosen excerpt from the correct answer:

  As of CentOS 7.2 tuned now has a no-daemon mode which  
  can be turned on by setting daemon = 0 in 
  /etc/tuned/tuned-main.conf. This is mentioned in the 
  RedHat Performance Tuning Guide.
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