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Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by npo9 »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #13
BitwiseFool wrote: post #2

According to the article Boeing has halted production, but this leaves the door open to producing them again in the future after design updates. I predict they'll try to rename the model and fly it again after making changes and certifying. That being said, I never want to fly on a 737 Max or whatever they plan to rebrand it as.

> That being said, I never want to fly on a 737 Max or whatever they plan to rebrand it as. Self admittedly, I don't fly as frequently as I used to, but do they still put the model of plane you're flying on anywhere on the ticket? How can someone go about making sure you're not flying on this specific model?

It’s listed on several UIs for purchasing tickets, but usually it takes several clicks to identify the model of airplane.

Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by stanferder »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #2

According to the article Boeing has halted production, but this leaves the door open to producing them again in the future after design updates. I predict they'll try to rename the model and fly it again after making changes and certifying. That being said, I never want to fly on a 737 Max or whatever they plan to rebrand it as.

I've completely stopped buying tickets on airlines that own or ordered 737 MAX's, so I don't even have to check if they've been un-grounded.

Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by me_me_me »

codegeek wrote: post #20

I don't know about anyone else but personally, I would never fly a 737 max. Yes it could be fixed and yes it may be the same as other models going forward but the amount of coverage it has received and the fear it has created, I would always check if I am flying a 737 max or not. Yes that doesn't necessarily mean anything but it is now tainted. Boeing is smart to just discontinue the name even if it repackages it aga…

What? Why? We have duct-taped even more safety features now.

It must have made it safer to fly.

Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by rapsey »

stopads wrote: post #10
BitwiseFool wrote: post #2

According to the article Boeing has halted production, but this leaves the door open to producing them again in the future after design updates. I predict they'll try to rename the model and fly it again after making changes and certifying. That being said, I never want to fly on a 737 Max or whatever they plan to rebrand it as.

I'm almost there, after reading about how much Boeing has spent on stock buybacks (5x all of R&D over the past six years) I think I'm going to start looking into which model typically services a route and avoid all modern Boeing planes. Boeing made a lot of executives super rich with buybacks and equity compensation, this led directly to the shoddy engineering choices.

Just like every other major public company. If that is your criteria you will be left with little to buy.

Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by [deleted] »

rapsey wrote: post #24
stopads wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm almost there, after reading about how much Boeing has spent on stock buybacks (5x all of R&D over the past six years) I think I'm going to start looking into which model typically services a route and avoid all modern Boeing planes. Boeing made a lot of executives super rich with buybacks and equity compensation, this led directly to the shoddy engineering choices.

Just like every other major public company. If that is your criteria you will be left with little to buy.

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Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by stopads »

rapsey wrote: post #24
stopads wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm almost there, after reading about how much Boeing has spent on stock buybacks (5x all of R&D over the past six years) I think I'm going to start looking into which model typically services a route and avoid all modern Boeing planes. Boeing made a lot of executives super rich with buybacks and equity compensation, this led directly to the shoddy engineering choices.

Just like every other major public company. If that is your criteria you will be left with little to buy.

No, the current buyback madness (at least at these levels) is a very recent invention of the past decade and quite abnormal. We can go back to reinvesting in companies and employees and research tomorrow if we want to.

But this would require boards and executives who didn't want to just grant themselves huge amounts of equity while buying back stock. So far not many boards are standing up for this.

Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by codegeek »

heavymark wrote: post #3
BitwiseFool wrote: post #2

According to the article Boeing has halted production, but this leaves the door open to producing them again in the future after design updates. I predict they'll try to rename the model and fly it again after making changes and certifying. That being said, I never want to fly on a 737 Max or whatever they plan to rebrand it as.

Yes, I imagine the rebranding will be as ineffective as Comcast rebranding as Xfinity, where everyone knows they are the same.

Yea it is hilarious how Comcast thinks rebranding to xfinity etc is going to help. To be fair to them, the internet service mostly has been excellent where I live. The issue is the predatory pricing/cost and ever decreasing TV channels for existing customers.

Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by linsomniac »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #2

According to the article Boeing has halted production, but this leaves the door open to producing them again in the future after design updates. I predict they'll try to rename the model and fly it again after making changes and certifying. That being said, I never want to fly on a 737 Max or whatever they plan to rebrand it as.

I've heard that the "Max" name doesn't appear on FAA filings and the like, they use the name "737-8". I'm guessing that they'll be switching to using that name once the issues are ironed out.

Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by jlmorton »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #13
BitwiseFool wrote: post #2

According to the article Boeing has halted production, but this leaves the door open to producing them again in the future after design updates. I predict they'll try to rename the model and fly it again after making changes and certifying. That being said, I never want to fly on a 737 Max or whatever they plan to rebrand it as.

> That being said, I never want to fly on a 737 Max or whatever they plan to rebrand it as. Self admittedly, I don't fly as frequently as I used to, but do they still put the model of plane you're flying on anywhere on the ticket? How can someone go about making sure you're not flying on this specific model?

Aircraft type is even a filter option on some travel sites, like Kayak.

Re: Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes

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Post by madengr »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #2

According to the article Boeing has halted production, but this leaves the door open to producing them again in the future after design updates. I predict they'll try to rename the model and fly it again after making changes and certifying. That being said, I never want to fly on a 737 Max or whatever they plan to rebrand it as.

This will probably be the safest plane to fly on, considering the amount of scrutiny the FAA is now applying.
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