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Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by Proven »

runamok wrote: post #77
MrPatan wrote: post #57

Really, just use duckduckgo.com. Go to your Firefox' settings and change the default search engine, there, done. See if you care in a week to change it back, I promise you that you won't.

Even easier you can use the "bang" commands in DDG when you do wish to use Google, e.g. !g. E.g. "search something !g". Stopping using Google by default is a big deal if enough people do it.

Firefox did very well for themselves when they made millions switch to Google. But it wasn't considered a big deal. Now doing the opposite is a big deal.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by kryogen1c »

cco wrote: post #66
pb7 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Evil is also subjective.

Only on the end closest to "neutral", past some arbitrary point your subjective opinion on evil stops mattering to people with morals.

i see people say this and act in accordance with this principle all the time, and its entirely wrong.

a moral is not something that IS "good", its something ABOUT "good". saying someone is moral is calling someone principled - it says nothing about whether their principles (morals) are good or bad.

we need to discuss morals because they are axiomatic and foundational. if you take a strict moral view that doing harm of any kind is always wrong, you will never be able to discuss anything with someone who believes in the needs of the many over the needs of the few.

saying "moral people always recognize evil" is dangerously blind, circular reasoning, and the mechanism of several atrocities in history.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by verroq »

jaywalk wrote: post #65
mam2 wrote: post #54

They also kinda build the web though

They absolutely did not. But even if that were true, how does that excuse this awful behavior?

Well clearly they built it so they own it. So if you don’t like it, it’s their way or the highway!

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by minikites »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #82

I disconnect from my phone after 6pm or so and if while doing my crossword puzzle I need trivia answered or something spelled out I can ask my Nest Mini and get no bullshit answers most of the time without ads.

>most of the time without ads

For now.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by rchaud »

vectorEQ wrote: post #33

don't see why ppl are surprised about this from an ad company. its not a search engine company and never as been, despite having a large search engine...

Google has been the search champion for close to 2 decades, and are seen as the pinnacle of SV innovation. That's the starting point of any conversation about Google, because the victors get to write history.

That's why 'ppl are surprised'. To many, Google's ethos is still 'do no evil', an absurd mantra for a for-profit enterprise whose business model relies on developing ever more effective ways to spy on people's behaviours for the benefit of their advertisers.

What's rapidly

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by fimoreth »

nokicky wrote: post #46

I made a Chrome extension a few months ago to fix the design, you'll find it here: https://github.com/attio/google-ad-fixer I'll try and submit to the Chrome Store, let's see if it gets in :)

I also have one I submitted over the weekend. They haven't taken it down yet :). Mine is just geared towards my dislike of the favicons, not distinguishing the styling of the ads.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-google-s...

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hide-google-search...

Source: https://github.com/Jtfinlay/gsearch-hidefavicon

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by thrwn_frthr_awy »

SquareWheel wrote: post #67
pmlnr wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

read. more. tech. history. You have no idea how furious your comment made me.

They've built browsers, standards, protocols, libraries, and frameworks for the web. They've contributed more to the web than probably any company outside of CERN.

Do you work at Google? All of these comments when defending Google or Facebook are almost always from employees. I could be wrong...

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by codegeek »

As a small business owner who doesn't run a whole lot of ads and relies on organic traffic, this is really scary. I could be wrong but as a consumer, I prefer clicking on organic results than ads for the most part. Now there is no difference. If my potential customers also think the same way, we would be screwed. Google, please don' do this.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by ronilan »

pushcx wrote: post #29

https://www.google.com/about/honestresults/ It's a little confusing to read now, so for context: at the time Google published this, it only put ads in the sidebar to the right of search results. This post was written to criticize the practice of putting ads atop search results, which competitors sometimes formatted almost indistinguishably from organic search results.

Your link is gold. A historic artifact.

Amazing how clear the writing is, how simple the message. That’s, like, totally not the corpspeak Goog emits now on a daily basis.

So, let’s do some digging.

Earliest version of url dates back 4+ years. https://web.archive.org/web/20151213182805/https://www.googl...

Things were a little better than, but not by much. This has to be earlier.

Ah, here is:

https://books.google.ca/books?id=oNT3AwAAQBAJ&pg=PA289&lpg=P...

This page is from a book by Douglas Edwards, employee number 59 published in 2011.

The content of OP url, written by same, is dated March 2002.

That company no longer exists. Goog should remove it from their website.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Post by nokicky »

fimoreth wrote: post #96
nokicky wrote: post #46

I made a Chrome extension a few months ago to fix the design, you'll find it here: https://github.com/attio/google-ad-fixer I'll try and submit to the Chrome Store, let's see if it gets in :)

I also have one I submitted over the weekend. They haven't taken it down yet :). Mine is just geared towards my dislike of the favicons, not distinguishing the styling of the ads. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-google-s... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hide-google-search... Source: https://github.com/Jtfinlay/gsearch-hidefavicon

Nice! The results look much better without favicons, I'm going to install this too.
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