For those already using Edge for its greatly superior DRM, the new browser may result in a big nosedive in performance for streaming video! Providers will be happy to supply cheaper Widevine-encrypted content instead of Playready but this will cause a big increase in CPU cycles when watching encrypted videos. Fortunately users may opt out of using Widevine by disabling the Widevine DRM flag at edge://flags/#edge-widevine-drm.
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> because these tools are installed for all users So all they should require is to be dragged into the /Applications folder (or /System/Applications in Catalina). That's it. That's how a macOS app should be installed. That should be the end of the process unless it needs to install kernel extensions (and even then, from Catalina onwards, such extensions should become userland extensions).
But how could a regular user be allowed to install something for other users? That would be a breach of security.
Technically, an application bundle can be located anywhere on a Mac; there is no installation process, they’re self-contained and always have been.
The question of how a regular user could be allowed to install something for all users in this fashion, placing the app bundle in the /Applications folder, is no different than when using an installer: ask for an administrator password.
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What can you express in JavaScript which you cant express in C#?
What can you express in C# which you cant express in Assembler?
Expressions and functions for example. Assembler is really low level, it doesn't even have control structures. But C# seem to have everything JavaScript has and much more, so I just wondered why the parent post found JavaScript more expressive.
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I don't really think this is a problem anymore. It's more that no desktop OS provides secure native execution facilities a la iOS. The web browser was the best solution for sandboxing web applications in 1995-200x, but now CPUs have multiple cores, virtualization extensions, systems with multiple gigabytes of ram, etc. There are better ways to sandbox applications in 2020.
As an interesting counterpoint, since iOS sideloading became semi-possible around 2014, there have been many more app-based Jailbreaks than Safari-based Jailbreaks. This is true despite the fact that on iOS, sideloading custom apps without a developer account is extraordinarily inconvenient.
I'm so sorry to respond so late; I would just like to point out "the cloud," and the fact that there have been very few hypervisor escapes. Just because there are more app-based Jailbreaks on iOS has little to do with what is technically possible given the hardware (recent Intel missteps notwithstanding).
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Hey, thanks for everything you've done for open source and open platforms. The reason you gave here for Brave not choosing Gecko (or WebKit) is interesting – but given Microsoft's deep pockets and tech know-how those reasons don't apply to them. I think this is a strategic blunder on Microsoft's part and I say this as a Linux user. :) Microsoft has now warmly embraced Linux – and I think they could have chosen this t…
Microsoft was slowly losing browser share with their own engine, felt they needed more web compatibility (including de facto via the WebKit lineage) and extensions sooner. They were not going to play a long game, even if they could afford it. Mozilla may have looked wobbly to them, too.
Didn't see your reply before this, sorry.
I hear what you're saying – but! – a tech giant has to play the long game. The Web is an open (for now) platform and Microsoft, like Apple, like Google, need to have their own web client/server implementation. Makes no sense to be beholden to Google imho.
I'm stunned at how little desktop browser share Edge has (4.6%): https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worl... – however, changing browser engine is not going to change that, is it? I suppose, if Google and Microsoft end up equally and democratically sharing Chromium development then all's well.
Given the recent layoffs at Mozilla it's a pity (in hindsight – for the benefit of the open web) Microsoft didn't back them :(
Anyhow, thanks for the response.
Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
#486Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey, thanks for everything you've done for open source and open platforms. The reason you gave here for Brave not choosing Gecko (or WebKit) is interesting – but given Microsoft's deep pockets and tech know-how those reasons don't apply to them. I think this is a strategic blunder on Microsoft's part and I say this as a Linux user. :) Microsoft has now warmly embraced Linux – and I think they could have chosen this t…
Surely Microsoft has done their homework: researched everything and weigh the pros & cons. This is a big thing and the next step in their browser strategy. We can only guess their reasons, but clearly in their eyes, Chromium codebase is the better choice.
True, but big companies can sometimes make big mistakes, no?
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#487Was just about to have a look at the latest download for this for MacOS, and found out it downloads a .pkg rather than a .dmg (which is how standalone apps typically install).
So, looking into the .pkg file I notice that it's also bundled Office16_all_autoupdate.pkg, which has a 'Microsoft AutoUpdate.app'. Inside the contents of that app is another app called 'Microsoft AU Daemon.app' which contains various M$ Root Certs and a string 'Microsoft Update Assistant launched'...
It's stunts like this which make me not trust Microsoft very much. I want nothing to do with Office, nor a one-stop-shop port of Windows Update. God knows what telemetry MS will try to upload with these products, but I'm not buying it.