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Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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This is only for commercial usage, private and non commercial is explicitly exempted.

This is good, of course. I am curious: while a typical user of imgur would clearly be non-commercial, would imgur itself be at risk for hosting the material? Or does Germany have a “safe harbour”-like concept for platforms that host user content?

imgur is clearly a commercial image hosting platform. There wouldn't be any ads nor payment systems if it would be non-commercial

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Commercial... memes?

In Hamburg for example public transit busses are covered in memes [0] [0]: https://i.redd.it/ygj1fa5130f11.jpg

It could be that the ad agencies are using the memes not to pay for the images. Maybe the photographers that used to work for them complained and got this law.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

#25
Who's pushing for this? Meme's are free advertising for the rights holder.

It's like media industries love to hurt themselves. They've already brought back mass piracy by fragmenting streaming services, next they want to kill any chance of their content going viral I guess.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

#26

I wonder if this stupid compliance trick works: encode the image in base64 (or whatever, maybe something more dense), output that as plain text in the page, tell users they need to install a browser extension that recognizes these parts, decodes them and puts the image in place of the text. Just for kicks the browser extension is open source and is maintained by anonymous..

> I wonder if this stupid compliance trick works:

It would be correct, tautological even, to say in German "Deutsche Richter haben die Intelligenz einer Kartoffel". But that doesn't translate to "German judges have the intelligence of a potato" but to "German judges have the intelligence of a kraut".

In other words, no, that is not how the law works.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

#28
post #25

Who's pushing for this? Meme's are free advertising for the rights holder. It's like media industries love to hurt themselves. They've already brought back mass piracy by fragmenting streaming services, next they want to kill any chance of their content going viral I guess.

> Meme's are free advertising for the rights holder.

Most of the time I don't know where the meme's graphical content is from so it's not really advertising the source. But by the same token of course the meme is not harmful to the the content owner's economic interests.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

#29

This is only for commercial usage, private and non commercial is explicitly exempted.

IMO: this is a good thing, memes are addictive and worse still they’re often themselves advertising on commercial sites. I’m glad something is being done.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

#30
post #25

Who's pushing for this? Meme's are free advertising for the rights holder. It's like media industries love to hurt themselves. They've already brought back mass piracy by fragmenting streaming services, next they want to kill any chance of their content going viral I guess.

> Meme's are free advertising for the rights holder.

Unfortunately, artists can't make a living from free advertising.

Anyway, the "Germany to ban memes" is just a spin on the story to generate clicks and outrage (similar to the EU copyright directive some time before). This legislation is about commercial use of images. The 128x128 pixels is what the law would consider a "thumbnail" image that can be used without explicit license from the copyright holder.

Perhaps a more correct headline would be "Germany to unban memes smaller than 128x128 pixels".

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