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Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by jcadam »

codetrotter wrote: post #33
xvector wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

A couple of thoughts: 1. If everyone lives until the end of the universe, what does that mean for the prospect of having children? I would think it would mean that we would need to stop having children at some point, or else we would overcrowd whatever portion of space that we are occupying at some point. Not being allowed to have children would be sad. I don’t have any children yet, but I want to have children in th…

Curing aging doesn't mean you'll live forever. Something will eventually get you. I'd be surprised if the median lifespan were more than a few hundred years once age and age-related diseases are eliminated as causes of death.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by raxxorrax »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #100
echelon wrote: post #32

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Does this happen in young, healthy individuals? I was reading the Wikipedia article linked in another thread [1], and several of the "sudden" deaths were people in their 40s that appear to have been healthy. Do you feel symptoms, eg. during exercise, that you should listen to so as to inform you to stop whatever activity you're doing? Feeling light-headed, short of breath, blurry vision, etc.? I run and also perform…

Had it happen to a classmate in school. I seem to remember it's either second or third most common cause of death in young people (in rich countries), usually behind traffic accidents. But that has to be considered together with the fact that, generally speaking, young people just don't die . Oh, and to fuel your paranoia: had a friend die in Moscow from a stroke. Death could have easily been prevented, if they had c…

That is pretty horrible. Of course the police would suspect drugs. Maybe they should mandate medical personal being available in every police station.

One of our teachers went jogging and just dropped dead from an aneurysm in the brain. His wife told us that he wasn't feeling too well that day, but good enough for a little bit of exercise.

He was 33 when he passed and was the youngest teacher we had. His condition was only detected after his death. I don't know if it could have been prevented and if this form of atery damage could have been repaired.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by qwerty456127 »

fernly wrote: post #12

Dubious about the "heart attack" diagnosis, at least as the phrase is usually understood. More likely "Sudden Cardiac Arrest"[1]: "In over half of the cases, however, sudden cardiac arrest occurs without prior symptoms." Like, the pump just stops. You'd feel faint and then be unconscious. [1] https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/guide/sudden-cardiac-dea...

> "Sudden Cardiac Arrest": "In over half of the cases, however, sudden cardiac arrest occurs without prior symptoms." Like, the pump just stops. You'd feel faint and then be unconscious.

What a wonderful way to die. No sickness, no disability, no pain. Just turn off when the time comes. I wish everybody could die this way. Not too early preferably.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by qwerty456127 »

adventured wrote: post #38
c3534l wrote: post #11

I've heard a few stories where a person seemed to suddenly acknowledge that they were about to die. Granted, my grandmother repeatedly claimed she was going to die that night and the one time it was true the family lore became that she somehow knew. But to stop what you're doing like that, I wonder what it is they're actually feeling in the moment. Did he know he was going to die? Did he just feel dizzy? What do peop…

When my grandmother died, she sent her husband out to the store, took off her rings (which she never removed), and was dead when he returned. She had been in failing health, was around 90 years old, had recently gone through a rough fight with cancer, a broken leg from a fall, and had just been in a nursing home temporarily. She fought with everyone to be allowed to go home and die, she didn't want to die in the nurs…

Seems like she has reached a particularly high level of spiritual development (which can be more rationally defined as self-minfulness). Great Tibetan Buddhist masters use to die the same way - they would tell everybody in advance and prepare themselves.

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Post by pubutil »

Doxin wrote: post #106
retrac wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supposedly, a panic attack is subjectively similar in some ways to actually having a major medical emergency, especially a heart attack. "Impending sense of doom" is a symptom of a heart attack.

Fun fact: a lot of the symptoms of a panic attack are the same as the symptoms of a heart attack. This comes in especially inconvenient if the focus of your panic attack is fear of a heart attack. It's basically a self-confirming incorrect diagnosis.

This happened to me once, the second time I ever had a panic attack (the first being when I was a toddler). My heart started racing and I hyper focused on it; took my blood pressure and it was a high so I called the advice nurse who told me to have someone take me to the ER. Basically the only way the situation could have been worse is if I’d actually been having a heart attack. I was preparing to accept death at age 20.

What made it worse was the doc in the ER did an ultrasound on my heart as I was coming down from my freak-out. I was thinking “wow, that’s amazing! That’s my heart inside of me!” Then the doctor says, “this side of your heart looks a little thick but otherwise it looks fine” and never followed up. I try not to think about that too much.

One of the most frightening experiences of my life at the time, but it was super interesting in retrospect.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by rusk »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #113
fernly wrote: post #12

Dubious about the "heart attack" diagnosis, at least as the phrase is usually understood. More likely "Sudden Cardiac Arrest"[1]: "In over half of the cases, however, sudden cardiac arrest occurs without prior symptoms." Like, the pump just stops. You'd feel faint and then be unconscious. [1] https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/guide/sudden-cardiac-dea...

> "Sudden Cardiac Arrest": "In over half of the cases, however, sudden cardiac arrest occurs without prior symptoms." Like, the pump just stops. You'd feel faint and then be unconscious. What a wonderful way to die. No sickness, no disability, no pain. Just turn off when the time comes. I wish everybody could die this way. Not too early preferably.

Speaking as somebody who lost a loved one this way ... it's very hard on the family. I often wonder about my father's last moments ... did he know what was happening? Did he have any regrets, or any last things he wanted to say to people? For us as a family it was like a bomb going off, and we spent many many years cleaning up the debris, and in some ways nearly two decades later we still are. There are plenty worse ways to go, but it's not something I'd like to inflict on my family if I had the choice.

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Post by vidarh »

Doxin wrote: post #106
retrac wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supposedly, a panic attack is subjectively similar in some ways to actually having a major medical emergency, especially a heart attack. "Impending sense of doom" is a symptom of a heart attack.

Fun fact: a lot of the symptoms of a panic attack are the same as the symptoms of a heart attack. This comes in especially inconvenient if the focus of your panic attack is fear of a heart attack. It's basically a self-confirming incorrect diagnosis.

We called an ambulance once for my ex expecting a heart attack that turned out to be a panic attack. The ambulance crew that responded were very clearly very used to people confusing the two, and stressed it was better to call again than not if she was not sure.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by vidarh »

elfexec wrote: post #103

Strange to see so many comments praising the way this guy died. Do people really want to die suddenly in front of strangers without any time to prepare and get your house in order? So many here say that's the way they want to go, but that's hard to believe. Personally, I'd rather be given a few months or years notice so that I can prepare.

I'd say that if there are things you need to prepare, then do it now. If there are things you want to do so badly that you'd drop everything to do them if you suddenly knew you were going to die, then do them now.

With that in mind, I'd prefer no warning, because I wouldn't want to spend my last time alive thinking about running out of time.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by ljm »

pansa wrote: post #15
monksy wrote: post #13

A British comedian did this as well.. The audience thought it was apart of the act and didn't respond for 5 minutes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Cognito Also apparently this is a thing that happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_entertainers_who_died_...

I was sure your link to a British comedian was going to be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Cooper

There's a fantastic elegy to Tommy Cooper in a hip-hop song by Dan le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip. Just one song out of several in a fantastic record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8zi7vcnjVc

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by qwerty456127 »

rusk wrote: post #116
qwerty456127 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Sudden Cardiac Arrest": "In over half of the cases, however, sudden cardiac arrest occurs without prior symptoms." Like, the pump just stops. You'd feel faint and then be unconscious. What a wonderful way to die. No sickness, no disability, no pain. Just turn off when the time comes. I wish everybody could die this way. Not too early preferably.

Speaking as somebody who lost a loved one this way ... it's very hard on the family. I often wonder about my father's last moments ... did he know what was happening? Did he have any regrets, or any last things he wanted to say to people? For us as a family it was like a bomb going off, and we spent many many years cleaning up the debris, and in some ways nearly two decades later we still are. There are plenty worse…

I'm sincerely sad for you having lost a loved one whatever a way yet I still can't imagine a way which would be less sad. And that's not because all the ways are equally sad but because all the other seem worse. So I certainly wish me and everybody else in my family are going to die this way when the time comes as long as we can't just live forever healthily and happily. Of course it would be better if we could know exactly when this is going to happen, some people do, but that's so unusual it's hard to hope.
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