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Lockheed Martin to develop ground-launched hypersonic missile

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Re: Lockheed Martin to develop ground-launched hypersonic missile

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Post by peteretep »

retiredalien wrote: post #35

Lockheed was intimately involved in the current UFO story being promoted. They had worked on and off for years with Bigelow Aerospace. When Bigelow won the AATIP contract, 2 of the 38 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents were written by highly credible Lockheed scientists. It’s assumed that Bigelow affiliates initially enchanted Lockheed with the credibility of former intelligence employees. In 2015, Lockheed exe…

> UFO ... John Podesta ... the assumption that Hillary Clinton would win the Presidency ... is controlled by the CIA

I dread to ask, but what story or theory are you referencing here? Some light Google News searching isn't showing up much.

Re: Lockheed Martin to develop ground-launched hypersonic missile

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Post by trianglem »

retiredalien wrote: post #35

Lockheed was intimately involved in the current UFO story being promoted. They had worked on and off for years with Bigelow Aerospace. When Bigelow won the AATIP contract, 2 of the 38 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents were written by highly credible Lockheed scientists. It’s assumed that Bigelow affiliates initially enchanted Lockheed with the credibility of former intelligence employees. In 2015, Lockheed exe…

That’s a tall tale and hard to buy without at least some evidence.

Re: Lockheed Martin to develop ground-launched hypersonic missile

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Post by jacobush »

Enginerrrd wrote: post #20
monadic2 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is stupid. of course you can die, that’s no excuse for giving up on human values.

Not necessarily. Nuclear weapons have thus far arguably been the single greatest global stabilizer of all time.

"Thus far" is a very very short time.

Re: Lockheed Martin to develop ground-launched hypersonic missile

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Post by starpilot »

retiredalien wrote: post #35

Lockheed was intimately involved in the current UFO story being promoted. They had worked on and off for years with Bigelow Aerospace. When Bigelow won the AATIP contract, 2 of the 38 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents were written by highly credible Lockheed scientists. It’s assumed that Bigelow affiliates initially enchanted Lockheed with the credibility of former intelligence employees. In 2015, Lockheed exe…

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Re: Lockheed Martin to develop ground-launched hypersonic missile

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Post by dirtyid »

perigee58 wrote: post #36

The US military is looking to outfit Starlink, Kuiper and other commercial LEO satellite constellations with hypersonic missiles, for an on-demand kill of any spot on Earth within 90 seconds. Project has been in the works for nearly two decades but the exponential reduction in cost per kg to LEO has made this nightmare finally fully viable. See Space Development Agency under the newly minted Space Force for more info…

This seems like the kind of space weaponization that's in every significant geopolitical players interest to ban. Ditto with conjectures that cost-effective commercial launches makes SDI satellite missile defense viable. It's just going to encourage all the players to go all-in on ASAT, park SLBMs near each others coasts while racing to a constellation of hypersonic missiles of their own. The last thing US wants to do is encourage China / Russia to hit any spot in mainland US in 90s. Or anyone for that matter, it's way too destabilizing for all parties involved.

Re: Lockheed Martin to develop ground-launched hypersonic missile

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Post by Djemanac »

pandaman wrote: post #26
hanniabu wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, all that military innovation that's been improving the education system over the years....

In Russia, after seeing the nuclear weapon the Party realized that the Marxism-Leninism alone is not going to produce such a weapon and had allowed and forced real sciences to be taught in schools. Likewise, the "Sputnik moment" in the US resulted in massive education improvements, e.g. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2007/10/how-sputnik-c...

Those better schools payed up real quick. Soviet union created atomic bomb in 1949.

Re: Lockheed Martin to develop ground-launched hypersonic missile

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Post by dirtyid »

retiredalien wrote: post #35

Lockheed was intimately involved in the current UFO story being promoted. They had worked on and off for years with Bigelow Aerospace. When Bigelow won the AATIP contract, 2 of the 38 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents were written by highly credible Lockheed scientists. It’s assumed that Bigelow affiliates initially enchanted Lockheed with the credibility of former intelligence employees. In 2015, Lockheed exe…

>it would be illegal for the US Government to engage in disinformation

Smith–Mundt Act of 2012 legalized domestic dissemination of propaganda.

Re: Lockheed Martin to develop ground-launched hypersonic missile

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Post by DuskStar »

rapsey wrote: post #33
wnkrshm wrote: post #28

There is an interesting discussion about the effects of hypersonic nuclear capable missiles and glide vehicles here [0]. In summary, this doesn't change much. But what the larger players are afraid of is proliferation of hypersonic missile technology [1]. [0] https://thebulletin.org/2020/01/hypersonic-missiles-new-arms... [1] https://www.rand.org/blog/2018/03/hypersonic-missiles-a-new-...

[0] Is I have to say simply wrong on every point. Russia has large missile defense deployments S400 and S500 and selling them to lots of countries. This is in no way a secret and a huge bone of contention between Turkey and the US for their purchase of S400. Hypersonic missiles make aircraft carriers sitting ducks without any defense. This is a pretty damn large shift in military power at the US expense.

For hypersonic missiles to work against ships, they require either nukes - in which case conventional ICBMs on a lower trajectory work fine - or terminal guidance, which is an absolute bitch through 3000K plasma. There's a difference between being maneuverable and maneuvering to hit a moving target, after all.

I don't think they change the naval balance of power much.

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