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Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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People who write code for robot compilers (aka programmers) often make this mistake. People who write code for human compilers (aka writers) embrace the subjectivity/variability of those human compilers

You forget one subcategory of writers: lawyers (and their subcategory legislators ). They definitely reject variability of interpretation as much as they can, or at least try their hardest to.

In my experience, this is how programmers think lawyers work, and it's why so many programmers frustrate actual lawyers by thinking they can use pure robotic logic to decide on the legality of something (or to find clever loopholes that no human judge would ever actually allow).

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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Also, coffee beans are not beans, but the pit (that usually comes in two parts) of the coffee fruit. It's the same with cocoa beans, but with 30-50 seeds per fruit.

The coffee fruit is a berry. We just don’t ordinarily consume the skin and fleshy part.

> We just don’t ordinarily consume the skin and fleshy part.\

Do you mean they're edible?

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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And Congress ruled that tomato pizza sauce is a vegetable for nutritional purposes. Don't you feel well legislated ? https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/did-congr...

Wow did you even read the title of the article you posted? Here it is: >No, Congress did not declare pizza a vegetable Congress decided that 1/8th of a cup of tomato puree counts as a SERVING of vegetables. Not A vegetable. You're just intentionally saying something stupid in order to attempt to project that stupidity on someone else.

Actually ovi256 explicitly did refer to the sauce.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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And of course the technical definition supersedes the use of the word "berry" in the English language...

The problem is that the people who name things don't always have enough knowledge to name them properly. And once a name has stuck, even if it's technically incorrect, it ain't gonna change.

And sometimes the technical crowd gets a little bit carried away when they narrow definitions. For instance, although its name was the very origin of the term, Stonehenge no longer qualifies as a henge.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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The coffee fruit is a berry. We just don’t ordinarily consume the skin and fleshy part.

> We just don’t ordinarily consume the skin and fleshy part.\ Do you mean they're edible?

That depends on what you mean by "edible". Coffee cherries aren't particularly pleasant, at least not for human tastes, but they're strictly edible. Palm civets seem to like 'em, but not enough to make kopi luak cheap.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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Yeah and cucumbers are fruit, birds are dinosaurs, ladybugs are not bugs, peanuts are not nuts, etc. Sometimes I think that scientists should just stick to taxonomic categories or other words that don't conflict with their "common usage" meanings. (and while we all seem to agree that whales aren't fish, they are certainly within the "bony fish" clade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteichthyes and are a lot closer rel…

.... whales certainly aren't bony fish. They're in class Mammalia, which is not within the superclass Osteichthyes. I.e. they're mammals, not fish.
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