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It costs $10k to ‘own’ a Chick-fil-A franchise

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Re: It costs $10k to ‘own’ a Chick-fil-A franchise

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Post by manigandham »

sixtypoundhound wrote: post #81
manigandham wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fantastic food that is higher quality than the typical chains. Served fast and close to the same prices. Individually owned and operated with tight franchise oversight. Also the faux Twitter outrage has helped give them more popularity.

Politics aside, the food is awesome, fast, and polite. And generally better for you than the major chains... I'm not really sure what MacDonald's actually serves anymore... much less any of the others...

All of the old chains have launched bigger/better/more expensive food options but it's hard to compete since their reputation and existing customer base knows them for a certain price and quality.

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Post by forrestthewoods »

cryptoz wrote: post #105
forrestthewoods wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ending ties with anti-gay groups. Salvation Army. The Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Calling those groups "anti-gay" and protesting a fast food restaurant for donating to them is absurd.

Salvation Army is extremely anti-gay. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/12/16/21003560/salvation-... Please do not spread such dangerous falsehoods like stating that they have not been anti-gay. These false ideas can get people hurt. Salvation Army has a very long, very intense history of going out of its way to harm LGBT people.

> extremely, violently anti-gay

Nice edit.

They help 23 million people a year, without any type of discrimination. They have at least one dorm exclusively for transgender individuals. Their charity services literally benefit millions of LGBTQ individuals every year.

But if you want to call that "extremely", "violently", or "intensely" anti-gay then I certainly can't stop you.

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Post by [deleted] »

aabhay wrote: post #106
adaisadais wrote: post #96

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Extremely well put. I completely concur. My first cousin is in the process of getting his “own” store now. While it has been a grind (he often worked the mythical 100+ hour week while in the Leadership Development Program) it will pay off handsomely. The best part of Chic-Fil-A (in my opinion) is not the food but their total devotion to the customer. The level of service you receive at a Chic-Fil-A freestanding store…

And perhaps apostrophes destroy the service culture? (McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Arby’s)

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Re: It costs $10k to ‘own’ a Chick-fil-A franchise

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Post by cryptoz »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #112
cryptoz wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salvation Army is extremely anti-gay. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/12/16/21003560/salvation-... Please do not spread such dangerous falsehoods like stating that they have not been anti-gay. These false ideas can get people hurt. Salvation Army has a very long, very intense history of going out of its way to harm LGBT people.

> extremely, violently anti-gay Nice edit. They help 23 million people a year, without any type of discrimination. They have at least one dorm exclusively for transgender individuals. Their charity services literally benefit millions of LGBTQ individuals every year. But if you want to call that "extremely", "violently", or "intensely" anti-gay then I certainly can't stop you.

Editing to remove accurate but aggressive words is a common piece of advice you hear on HN. I stand by original comment and my edit.

> They help 23 million people a year, without any type of discrimination.

This is false.

> They have at least one dorm exclusively for transgender individuals. Their charity services literally benefit millions of LGBTQ individuals every year.

Good acts do not undo bad acts.

> But if you want to call that "extremely", "violently", or "intensely" anti-gay then I certainly can't stop you.

Of course! I am right about this regardless. Salvation Army's discrimination and intentional pain caused to LGBT is real, even if you've never felt it yourself or wish to pretend it doesn't happen.

The fact that this is even a conversation at all should be sufficient evidence that their discrimination has in fact hurt LGBT people in particular.

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Post by cpitman »

wffurr wrote: post #90
jnwatson wrote: post #88

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It hits square in the middle of the “healthy” fast food market. It is perceived to be slightly more upscale and less bad for you than the traditional burger chains. It is literally the default choice for soccer moms ferrying kids among afternoon activities.

Fried chicken sandwiches are somehow healthy?

They also have grilled chicken variants, and wraps. Between the two, you can get an entree for a couple hundred calories.

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Post by sdinsn »

lonelappde wrote: post #61
xwowsersx wrote: post #45

> At $4.2m per store, Chick-fil-A’s average revenue is the highest of any fast-food chain in America, dwarfing both direct competitors (KFC; $1.2m) and bigger brands (McDonald’s; $2.8m) Wow, I did not know this. Why is that?

"Average" is a meaningless measure when the denominator is different. Fewer stores targeting higher revenue areas, often where they are exclusive local operator. It's like Mac vs PC. You can get higher revenue per store if you limit your market size.

Chipotle has a similar number of stores and targets higher income areas as well. They average of ~2M per store.

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Post by adaisadais »

aabhay wrote: post #106
adaisadais wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extremely well put. I completely concur. My first cousin is in the process of getting his “own” store now. While it has been a grind (he often worked the mythical 100+ hour week while in the Leadership Development Program) it will pay off handsomely. The best part of Chic-Fil-A (in my opinion) is not the food but their total devotion to the customer. The level of service you receive at a Chic-Fil-A freestanding store…

And perhaps apostrophes destroy the service culture? (McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Arby’s)

Haha you know, I think you are onto something! But the main thing is that most fast food businesses (and businesses in general) are so focused on revenue that their employees and customers suffer.

I recently used a self-serve machine at Taco Bell (love the dreadful beef chalupa) and had a poor experience. The machine was too low for my height and unadjustable. Poor design really brings out the worst in the fast food experience.

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Post by chrismcb »

adaisadais wrote: post #96
oflannabhra wrote: post #86

I know several CFA owner-operators, and this article is mostly on point. Some of the comments I’ve seen are a bit off. 2 of the 3 owner-operators I know have multiple locations, although this is rare. Income estimates are a bit low for typical stores I’d be surprised if any owner operator of a freestanding unit is below $250k. Also, the estimates of worked hours are a bit high. All the owner operators I know have gre…

Extremely well put. I completely concur. My first cousin is in the process of getting his “own” store now. While it has been a grind (he often worked the mythical 100+ hour week while in the Leadership Development Program) it will pay off handsomely. The best part of Chic-Fil-A (in my opinion) is not the food but their total devotion to the customer. The level of service you receive at a Chic-Fil-A freestanding store…

I don't eat at Chic fil a because I had a manager tell me my opinion is wrong and basically they don't care about the customers opinion. So it appears to me that they have absolutely zero devotion to the customer.

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Post by aarongolliver »

cryptoz wrote: post #100
all_blue_chucks wrote: post #74

After getting kicked out of their first store in England the owners announced they were ending ties with anti-gay groups.

I don't think that's true? Or if it is, they renounced that idea too and are continuing to donate money to anti-LGBTQ groups. https://www.therainbowtimesmass.com/chick-fil-a-backpedals-o... Chick-fil-a did not stop its anti-LGBTQ policies, they only pretended to do so for a few weeks last year.

I haven't seen any evidence that they've _continued_ to donate money, just that they said "OK, we might keep donating" as a way to calm down people who were angry by the announcement.

This article (and all the others I've read) only talks about donations that happened 2 and 3 years ago.

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