Staff emails claim Boeing 777X ‘shares Max problem’
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Staff emails claim Boeing 777X ‘shares Max problem’
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Re: Staff emails claim Boeing 777X ‘shares Max problem’
#2Have airlines cancelled orders of the 737 Max?
If yes the will they be canceling orders of this one too?
Re: Staff emails claim Boeing 777X ‘shares Max problem’
#3That's a disingenuous headline (I blame the Telegraph).
> In an email from June 2018, before the first Max crash, one Boeing worker wrote: “Best part is we are re-starting this whole thing with the 777X with the same supplier and have signed up to an even more aggressive schedule.”
> Another member of staff warns about a relentless cost focus...
> Last September, the 777X suffered a setback when it failed a ground test of its strength, suffering an explosive decompression that tore the fuselage and blew off a passenger door.
None of those are what I would call the "Max problem," (I'd consider that to be MCAS) but there does seem to be a systemic problem off cost cutting and aggressive deadlines.
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#4I can’t read the whole article because of the paywall.
But from the lead in it doesn’t look like it really is ‘the same issues’ as in problems with a lack of redundant sensor and overly aggressive correction due to engines that are too big.
Anyone whose read the whole thing care to correct me?
Re: Staff emails claim Boeing 777X ‘shares Max problem’
#5That's a disingenuous headline (I blame the Telegraph). > In an email from June 2018, before the first Max crash, one Boeing worker wrote: “Best part is we are re-starting this whole thing with the 777X with the same supplier and have signed up to an even more aggressive schedule.” > Another member of staff warns about a relentless cost focus... > Last September, the 777X suffered a setback when it failed a ground te…
Still doesn’t fill me with reassurance about the safety of flying on one of these.
Re: Staff emails claim Boeing 777X ‘shares Max problem’
#6Please, anyone let this be a lesson: you can destroy a brand that took decades to build in a matter of months.
Re: Staff emails claim Boeing 777X ‘shares Max problem’
#7That's a disingenuous headline (I blame the Telegraph). > In an email from June 2018, before the first Max crash, one Boeing worker wrote: “Best part is we are re-starting this whole thing with the 777X with the same supplier and have signed up to an even more aggressive schedule.” > Another member of staff warns about a relentless cost focus... > Last September, the 777X suffered a setback when it failed a ground te…
Still doesn’t fill me with reassurance about the safety of flying on one of these.
Cost cutting and aggressive timelines will always happen, and in a company as large as Boeing, someone will have made a comment like this about pretty much anything, so I have a really hard time telling if this is telling data or hindsight bias.
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#8These articles are getting a little tiresome. Private enterprise is about competition and cost reduction. That’s what drives improvement, innovation, and efficiency, and it’s what differentiates private enterprise from government spending, which is about justifying why things need to be so expensive.
Yes, Boeing was too aggressive about reducing cost to compete with Airbus and they need some major reform because hundreds of people are dead. But let’s not forget that this drive towards cost reduction is what still allows you today fly across the country in perfect safety for $300. All these people saying “Of course Boeing should have designed a totally new plane from scratch with quadruple-redundant systems, only the most experienced factory workers to build it, all parts made out of unicorn tears for safety’s sake, etc.” have a misguided view of how engineering is done.
Perfectly reasonable decisions by Boeing to try to reduce costs for their customers and passengers are now being characterized negatively, merely because they are intended to reduce cost. People don’t seem to realize that it’s easy to build an expensive airplane - the hard part of engineering is not always choosing the easy, expensive option.
Re: Staff emails claim Boeing 777X ‘shares Max problem’
#9Please, anyone let this be a lesson: you can destroy a brand that took decades to build in a matter of months.
yeah but you can walk away with a massive exit package. If you are ambitious, unscrupulous and mostly motivated by your own self-interests you needn't burden yourself with such sentimental matters like the age and reputation of your former employer.
Re: Staff emails claim Boeing 777X ‘shares Max problem’
#10These articles are getting a little tiresome. Private enterprise is about competition and cost reduction. That’s what drives improvement, innovation, and efficiency, and it’s what differentiates private enterprise from government spending, which is about justifying why things need to be so expensive. Yes, Boeing was too aggressive about reducing cost to compete with Airbus and they need some major reform because hund…
You probably are a developer, but engineering in life critical fields can't be reduced to cost efficiency.