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Re: Nototo – Build a unified mental map of notes

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Post by chenxi9649 »

Meph504 wrote: post #15
chenxi9649 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey! Thanks for the encouragement! A native app is definitely on the to-do list. The reason why we chose the browser is mainly so that we can distribute it to a broader audience. Also, I use a MacBook and my Co-founder uses windows, and we'd both like to use the app ourselves haha. I may be wrong on this, but I think the friction to download a native app is much higher than a web app. And we really want as many users…

I think the threshold for downloading a native app vs a web app is when you have to start putting your person data in the application. what you are creating is something that will be filled with peoples personal data. Many of us, are required by employers, law, or a sense of owning the data, are going to prevent people from storing the data on your server. you could look at a native app, if your rending is done clien…

"Many of us, are required by employers, law, or a sense of owning the data" Ahh, interesting. I've never thought about this when it comes to web vs native. It is surely one of my blind spots. Thank you for pointing that out!

We will definitely work towards that, however, at this moment we are quite limited by our development speed. So it is unclear how long it will be until our #1 prioritization becomes creating a native app.

Also, will definitely make the demo vid better, eventually!

Thanks for your feedback, I really appreciate them.

Re: Nototo – Build a unified mental map of notes

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Post by racingmars »

keyle wrote: post #6

Interesting concept. The brain does store information with visual location so that works in that way. reminds me a bit of Jurassic Park's OS :)

You're thinking of fsn, a 3D filesystem browser demo for the Irix operating system :-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn_(file_manager)

Re: Nototo – Build a unified mental map of notes

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Post by netsharc »

juliend2 wrote: post #12
danicgross wrote: post #9

This is very cool. Relatedly: I often run while listening to podcasts. When I do, I remember much more of the material. And when I revisit certain blocks around the neighborhood, I find myself recalling what I heard during the run. The spacial encoding of memories seems very potent and under-investigated.

It's called the Method of loci: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci Another term for that is the "memory palace". BTW, I wonder if anyone here in HN used it to learn significant things using this method?

I first learned about memory palaces in the book Hannibal, named after the character in Silence of the Lambs [0], but the description there is of a lavish imaginary palace inside your mind you can wander in. I did use this technique to try to remember some physics formulae for an exam once, in my memory palace there was a room with giant equations.

This website is a bit of a let-down for me since it's just a bird's eye view, it would be cool to create a palace using a 3d game engine, with signs that point to things like physics formulae, and then some Sims or Google-Sketchup-like tool to add objects that you want to remember.

[0] The relevant excerpt about Hannibal's memory palace: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/illusion-chasers/hannib... , it describes a painting that he uses to remember the fictional address "3327 Tindal, Arlington VA 22308".

Re: Nototo – Build a unified mental map of notes

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Post by aronowb14 »

raidicy wrote: post #4

This is slightly tangential. But, in line with visual representation of ideas to aid with memory I found that memories of things I did in VR were more like "real life memories" than anything I ever did in a 2d game. I have a few odd memories of Echo Arena where I swear I can remember feeling the cool air of the arena on my skin and smelling the cold metal walls mixed with sweat. It felt like I was "there". I wonder i…

I agree, I always thought in theory it could be possible to mix memory palaces with VR.

Someone did a research study on it here if you're interested.

https://obj.umiacs.umd.edu/virtual_reality_study/10.1007-s10...

Re: Nototo – Build a unified mental map of notes

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Post by chenxi9649 »

donpark wrote: post #18

Suggestions from an old side-project: automate land management. - Placing a note automatically creates an island around it with a recognizable landmark nearby. Add a tree after each addition. Add or enlarge a pond after each deletion. - Dragging a line between two islands/hills either merges the two or moves them closer, depending on the size of the islands/hills involved and the population of the area. Locations, di…

Hey donpark!

1. automatically adding landmarks This is a potential solution to a problem that we think about quite often: it's easy to teach people HOW to place components, but it's hard to teach people WHERE to place components.

We introduced templates to not only help people get started with their notes but also give them an example that they can follow when it comes to making memorable islands.

2. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by dragging a line. Do you mind expanding a little?

Re: Nototo – Build a unified mental map of notes

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Post by raidicy »

aronowb14 wrote: post #25
raidicy wrote: post #4

This is slightly tangential. But, in line with visual representation of ideas to aid with memory I found that memories of things I did in VR were more like "real life memories" than anything I ever did in a 2d game. I have a few odd memories of Echo Arena where I swear I can remember feeling the cool air of the arena on my skin and smelling the cold metal walls mixed with sweat. It felt like I was "there". I wonder i…

I agree, I always thought in theory it could be possible to mix memory palaces with VR. Someone did a research study on it here if you're interested. https://obj.umiacs.umd.edu/virtual_reality_study/10.1007-s10...

Thank you for the link! I'm very interested in reading it.

Re: Nototo – Build a unified mental map of notes

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Post by erikig »

netsharc wrote: post #23
juliend2 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called the Method of loci: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci Another term for that is the "memory palace". BTW, I wonder if anyone here in HN used it to learn significant things using this method?

I first learned about memory palaces in the book Hannibal, named after the character in Silence of the Lambs [0], but the description there is of a lavish imaginary palace inside your mind you can wander in. I did use this technique to try to remember some physics formulae for an exam once, in my memory palace there was a room with giant equations. This website is a bit of a let-down for me since it's just a bird's e…

One cannot build a 3d world without first building a 2d map

Re: Nototo – Build a unified mental map of notes

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Post by erikig »

chenxi9649 wrote: post #11

Hey! I'm actually one of the makers of Nototo. I'm quite surprised to find my own project trending on HackerNews! If anyone has questions feel free to ask me here! or at chen@nototo.app

Could you share some of the most interesting and unexpected uses of Nototo that you have encountered thus far?
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