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Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe campus police actually has any legal power. It also isn't the police department's SIM card, Barnacle owns it - of course it's still considered theft.

Depends on where you go. My college had a legitimate police department with duly authorized officers that could arrest, carry guns, etc.

This is common for public universities, for the obvious reason: they're already a branch of the state, so it makes sense for security to officially be state police.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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My SUS company, EasyALPR focuses on commercial parking enforcement / vehicle control. First, the people who get "in trouble" are often absolutely brazen in their unfair use of common parking. They're warned multiple times and even when given a "last chance" notice they'll just keep breaking rules. At that point you have to TOW them. And let me tell you, a TOW is something you can't lampoon or get free internet off of…

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Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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> Obviously, some students thought that fee was ridiculous – just like paying for parking at a university where you’re already paying a hefty tuition fee I hate parking fees as much as the next person, and totally appreciate the creativity of the people who defeated this device. However, how should we handle distributing a limited number of parking spaces when there are more people who want to park than available spa…

> I hate parking fees as much as the next person, and totally appreciate the creativity of the people who defeated this device.

However, how should we handle distributing a limited number of parking spaces when there are more people who want to park than available spaces?

This isn't a parking problem. At its root, this is a personal transportation,public transportation and/or cultural issue. Demand for numerous things are increasingly, but supply is effectively static. That is, for example, parking decks are expensive.

It's probably not possible to solve this as a parking problem But zoom back, dig for the roots and perhaps sone behaviors can be changed, and some cultural progress made?

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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post #98

My SUS company, EasyALPR focuses on commercial parking enforcement / vehicle control. First, the people who get "in trouble" are often absolutely brazen in their unfair use of common parking. They're warned multiple times and even when given a "last chance" notice they'll just keep breaking rules. At that point you have to TOW them. And let me tell you, a TOW is something you can't lampoon or get free internet off of…

Not all heroes wear capes. Thank you on behalf of all those administrators having to deal with the abuse!

PS: Do you have stats on the overlap between parking violators and people who refuse to pick up after their dogs?

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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> Obviously, some students thought that fee was ridiculous – just like paying for parking at a university where you’re already paying a hefty tuition fee I hate parking fees as much as the next person, and totally appreciate the creativity of the people who defeated this device. However, how should we handle distributing a limited number of parking spaces when there are more people who want to park than available spa…

Mass transportation options coupled with high density buildings should be the way to go. Parking just doesn’t scale. The uni I went to had a decent bus system that had routes along the major apt complexes (private and uni owner). Buses were usually on time, and likely faster than trying to find a parking spot.

Yah, UC Davis runs its own bus service (entirely run by students, actually), and has run a decades long psy-ops campaign to get people to ride bikes. It seems to have worked quite well!

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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Learning to solve IRL problems - that absolutely need solving - is why we send them to college. I couldn't be more proud.

meh - one can argue with the advent of the internet the entire college system is a farce. College at this point is just for building your network and securing that “dream job” because employers like to check off those boxes instead of actually finding qualified applicants. Although there is one thing that you can’t teach or learn which is having common sense or the ability to apply theories in practice.

People still need motivation to learn. Just because the knowledge is available doesn't mean they'll ingest it on their own. College may provide a structured environment helping with that. Or in this case a different kind of motivation to learn.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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> Obviously, some students thought that fee was ridiculous – just like paying for parking at a university where you’re already paying a hefty tuition fee I hate parking fees as much as the next person, and totally appreciate the creativity of the people who defeated this device. However, how should we handle distributing a limited number of parking spaces when there are more people who want to park than available spa…

> how should we handle distributing a limited number of parking spaces when there are more people who want to park than available spaces? Presumably most students are living on or not too far from campus. What should be done to get more of them to use transportation options that don't involve driving to and parking on campus?

Isn't that exactly why they charge for parking? To encourage students who have other modes of getting to school to use those?

If you have free parking, students will drive 5 blocks to go to school, is because why not? It is free and faster and easier.

If you charge for parking, many will walk or ride a bike or take a bus.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The SIM card thing might be a felony.

Didnt a court recently rule that someone taking off a GPS tracker (and throwing it away?) was not theft? My memory is fuzzy on that one.

How is that analogous to hacking a device so you can tether to it and use its data plan to avoid costs yourself?

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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> Obviously, some students thought that fee was ridiculous – just like paying for parking at a university where you’re already paying a hefty tuition fee I hate parking fees as much as the next person, and totally appreciate the creativity of the people who defeated this device. However, how should we handle distributing a limited number of parking spaces when there are more people who want to park than available spa…

My community college had more parking spaces than students on campus at any given time. They then did construction, resulting in one of the largest lots and some of the smaller lots being closed. There was still would have been enough parking for everyone, except they then rented out another parking lot to a pair of local companies. So, we ended up paying for parking when no parking was actually available. This was,…

I operated a car pool for several students when I was taking evening classes. This is probably difficult for full time students, but with a little effort would probably work.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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> Obviously, some students thought that fee was ridiculous – just like paying for parking at a university where you’re already paying a hefty tuition fee I hate parking fees as much as the next person, and totally appreciate the creativity of the people who defeated this device. However, how should we handle distributing a limited number of parking spaces when there are more people who want to park than available spa…

> I hate parking fees as much as the next person, and totally appreciate the creativity of the people who defeated this device. However, how should we handle distributing a limited number of parking spaces when there are more people who want to park than available spaces? This isn't a parking problem. At its root, this is a personal transportation,public transportation and/or cultural issue. Demand for numerous thing…

Well part of making that progress is making the status quo (driving your car to school) slightly more inconvenient by charging to park. That will encourage other modes of transportation.
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