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Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by freedomben »

tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

I know of quite a few companies that really value the Red Hat certs. Having RHCSA and RHCE as a devops person can really help get you an edge.

Mostly the bigger enterprises are the ones that will care about that. For the most part no startup I've talked to has ever cared.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by perl4ever »

commandlinefan wrote: post #18
_ea1k wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that they help in getting past the prescreening filters in HR departments. I'm not sure that they do much beyond that, though.

I’ve never seen any evidence of this happening in real life, but here on HN (and on Slashdot back when I read it) it’s common to see people insist that they would never hire anybody who _had_ any sort of certification. The reasoning usually goes something like “everybody I’ve met who had that certification was an idiot, so I can extrapolate that everybody who has it is also an idiot”. Of course, there are people here…

I was long ago told a story about interviewing a candidate who had on her resume that she was a member of Mensa, and seemed to have no real achievements, at least that she was prepared to talk about, otherwise. The implication was that if you have your IQ certified, you're probably a loser.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by thefantasma »

> Among the many people who’ve enrolled in the IT certificate, 60 percent identify as female, Black, Latino, or veteran—backgrounds that have historically been underrepresented in the tech industry.

I’m probably just cynical but this seems like it’s just Google trying to pat themselves on the back for “improving diversity”.

I’m curious how many of these IT professionals Google actually hires.

Grow with Google but still not good enough to get into Google.

If Google really wants to improve diversity, how about changing the interview process so it’s not biased towards Ivy League grads. Most people of color aren’t there.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by sjellis »

lame-robot-hoax wrote: post #36

Does anyone want to comment their thoughts on the course contents/the syllabus for the certification? 1. Crash course on Python. 2. Using Python to interact with the operating system. 3. Introduction to Git and GitHub. 4. Troubleshooting and debugging techniques. 5. Configuration management and the cloud. 6. Automating real world tasks with Python. To me, this actually seems like a pretty dang good syllabus.

The only one that I found questionable was item 5, because they specify Puppet, which is a legacy server configuration system that is not particularly great for cloud anything. Ansible or Terraform would make far more sense.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by bobbydreamer »

tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

Having a Certificate basically says you have put time and have knowledge to handle problem/issue when it comes. Interviewers or colleagues may act like that's not big a deal, but actually underlying they know that he knows stuff and you can depend on a certified person.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by cosmodisk »

elliekelly wrote: post #63
TheHypnotist wrote: post #43

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My employer has us get two a year. They generally favor the AWS certs, but certs in other relevant fields, apps, or service work too.

Can you explain how this works? Do you see this as a perk or “busy work”? Does your employer pay for the course and/or test? Do you get to choose which two certifications you complete?

This is a norm in Salesforce consulting. Employers usually cover the cost of certification and they are usually good way to discover gaps in your knowledge,as it's extremely huge platform. The type of certification would depend on the specialisation route one takes.I think most of this would apply to other fields as well.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by TheHypnotist »

elliekelly wrote: post #63
TheHypnotist wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My employer has us get two a year. They generally favor the AWS certs, but certs in other relevant fields, apps, or service work too.

Can you explain how this works? Do you see this as a perk or “busy work”? Does your employer pay for the course and/or test? Do you get to choose which two certifications you complete?

Depends on the individual. I see it as a perk, they pay for it, they pay for the training, and I end up studying something I may not feel compelled to study because it's not my "day to day".

Some people, for the last reason above, feel it's busy work.

However, after talking to some of my colleagues who work here and those who have moved on, the certifications are great resume builders. They get you discovered on linkedin and in many cases demonstrate some level of knowledge, specifically with the AWS certifications.

Edit: And yes, you can generally choose what you get to work on as long as it's related to the field, and depending on your managers, specifically to your organization. For example, we use AWS, so AWS certs are an easy yes - Salesforce too. However, I tend test the limits and even put in to see if the Google cert from this thread is eligible, but our goals for the year aren't clear yet - so we'll see.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by TheHypnotist »

cosmodisk wrote: post #76
elliekelly wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain how this works? Do you see this as a perk or “busy work”? Does your employer pay for the course and/or test? Do you get to choose which two certifications you complete?

This is a norm in Salesforce consulting. Employers usually cover the cost of certification and they are usually good way to discover gaps in your knowledge,as it's extremely huge platform. The type of certification would depend on the specialisation route one takes.I think most of this would apply to other fields as well.

To add to my other comment where I mentioned AWS. Salesforce Certifications are favorably viewed on as well. Our employer paid for the developer training AND the admin training, as a result, we were expected to get the certification. That may or may not happen, but there is a great deal to be learned in the training courses and I think the certification drives you to study, explored, and ultimately retain much of what you learn.
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