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What Nihilism Is Not

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Re: What Nihilism Is Not

#3
An interesting article. I feel like, especially in the era of social media, nihilism is underrated at the margin. Perhaps we should all believe in fewer beliefs.

Re: What Nihilism Is Not

#4
I think this article is a waste of time. Rather than using actual sources the author uses scenes from mtv highschool sitcoms to prove their point. Also the author injects their personal bias into everything.

Re: What Nihilism Is Not

#5
I think if your concept of nihilism holds that Socrates believing that justice is inherently good is nihilistic, it's not a very useful take on nihilism.

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Nihilist: the payoff matrix is zero, people have been brainwashed to perceive a non-zero payoff matrix

Pessimist: the payoff matrix is negative

Cynic: players refuse to cooperate, so we're stuck playing with a net negative result

Apathetic: this game is boring

Re: What Nihilism Is Not

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"Nihilism: the rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless;" Oxford.

Concise and seems pretty clear to me. While the article is well written, it doesn't really adds much IMO.

Re: What Nihilism Is Not

#8
Huh.

I did maybe a couple decades of applied nihilism, as presented by Landmark Education. It helped me a lot, given that I'm bipolar and prone to pessimism and depression.

So this makes sense to me:

> If, as I suggested earlier, nihilism and pessimism are opposites, then nihilism is actually much closer to optimism.

But not this:

> Such a lack of awareness is the point of nihilism, as nihilism is all about hiding from despair rather than dwelling on it.

As Landmark taught it, it's not so much hiding from despair as cultivating the awareness that despair is an illusion. That is, despair isn't about what happened. It's about our story about what happened. And our stories by default just reflect our programming.

This does, however, but it's too ambiguous:

> But the nihilist has feelings. It’s just that what the nihilist has feelings for is itself nothing.

It's not that it's "nothing", exactly. It's that it's indeterminate. By default, it's however we've been programmed. But it can be whatever we choose freely.

Re: What Nihilism Is Not

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post #7

"Nihilism: the rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless;" Oxford. Concise and seems pretty clear to me. While the article is well written, it doesn't really adds much IMO.

"Life is empty and meaningless, and it doesn't mean anything that it doesn't mean anything."

Re: What Nihilism Is Not

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post #6

Nihilist: the payoff matrix is zero, people have been brainwashed to perceive a non-zero payoff matrix Pessimist: the payoff matrix is negative Cynic: players refuse to cooperate, so we're stuck playing with a net negative result Apathetic: this game is boring

Maybe nihilist also says "let's play a different game".
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