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Re: Hosni Mubarak finally steps down

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Post by ceejayoz »

eftpotrm wrote: post #84

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12433045 The BBC's Jon Leyne in Cairo said the announcement caught everyone by surprise, and all over the city drivers honked their horns and people fired guns into the air. But the army takeover looks very much like a military coup, our correspondent adds. The constitution has been breached, he says, because officially it should be the speaker of parliament who takes over,…

I'd say it's a revolution the army joined in on. Parliament is stacked with Mubarak's party, so having them take over wouldn't have been much of a change.

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Post by ceejayoz »

shareme wrote: post #21

the bad thing is that HM stole $50 billion from the citizens of Egypt..and the USA does nothing and UN does nothing

That $50 billion number seems to have been fished out of thin air. IIRC, the US government estimates his fortune at closer to $2 billion. Large, yes, but not at the same level.

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goatforce5 wrote: post #6

Watching Al Jazeera's live stream and they had one of their journalists on the phone from the square. She expressed excitement and delight that Mubarak was gone. The host guy back in the studio pointed out the journalist on the phone had been impartial up until now, and basically apologised for her expressing her opinion. I thought that was pretty classy.

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Re: Hosni Mubarak finally steps down

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Post by nir »

hasenj wrote: post #83
jarin wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like the Arabic Al-Jazeera is more like the Fox News of the Arab world, while English Al-Jazeera is trying really hard to be more like BBC World.

It's not like Fox. It's pretty objective when it comes to different points of view. It's just not impartial when it comes to national issues.

Arab Al Jazeera is very much like Fox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samir_Kuntar#Reception_in_Leban...

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Post by asdfj843lkdjs »

zalew wrote: post #91
bvi wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He actually said something along the lines of "...do forgive her for her reaction. She was 1 week old when Mubarak came into office." Very cool.

Now it happened another time, and he was even more harsh, sth like "we are sorry that some of our Egyptian correspondents express their private emotions and opinions instead of only doing their proffession". That's what shows class and a really PRO approach. In Poland, when the pope died or the plane crashed, journalists of our local news stations started a crying/mourning contest - it was disgusting and unbearable t…

Everyone on TV crying sure seems like it would be super annoying. But I find the notion that journalist should, or even indeed ever could, be 100% objective and impartial - silly.

Silly and most prevalent in America. Curiously also in America we have Fox news which clearly does not abide by objectivity even as it advertises itself with it.

My point is simply that pure objectivity is an impossibility.

Attempting to reach pure objectivity can lead you down a wrong path, just look at how American journalists contort themselves in order to be nautral, facts and reality be damned.

In Europe it is much more prevalent that everyone has a bias, know what it is and keep it in mind as you read, watch, or listen to them.

I'm hoping that Al Jazeera, which is accused of having copied the style of fox news if not the substance, does not follow American journalism down the path of a bias free utopia.

I hope Egyptian journalists who show any kind of emotion at this news, are only jokingly reprimanded. As long as it doesn't turn into a soap opera, bias ought to be expected of mere humans, even if they are journalists.

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Post by JabavuAdams »

netmau5 wrote: post #41

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/Fe... This is one of the better images I've seen showing the pure scale of the protests. In the US, we had our "million man march" which questionably had so many people. In Egypt, many millions have been involved over the course of far longer than one day. With relation to their total population, the size of the movement is pretty mind boggling.

Interesting (take-home?) interview question: how many people are in this picture? How confident are you of that number? What are your tightest upper and lower bounds?

Re: Hosni Mubarak finally steps down

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Post by sfphotoarts »

goatforce5 wrote: post #6

Watching Al Jazeera's live stream and they had one of their journalists on the phone from the square. She expressed excitement and delight that Mubarak was gone. The host guy back in the studio pointed out the journalist on the phone had been impartial up until now, and basically apologised for her expressing her opinion. I thought that was pretty classy.

or possibly a little condescending.

Re: Hosni Mubarak finally steps down

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Post by mdolon »

ceejayoz wrote: post #102
shareme wrote: post #21

the bad thing is that HM stole $50 billion from the citizens of Egypt..and the USA does nothing and UN does nothing

That $50 billion number seems to have been fished out of thin air. IIRC, the US government estimates his fortune at closer to $2 billion. Large, yes, but not at the same level.

That makes me wonder though - he and many other rulers (I'm guessing) have amassed billions but are hush about it, so there's no telling who is funneling money and how much of it. It would be nice if Forbes added these rulers to their wealthiest people in the world lists.

Re: Hosni Mubarak finally steps down

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Post by zalew »

asdfj843lkdjs wrote: post #106
zalew wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now it happened another time, and he was even more harsh, sth like "we are sorry that some of our Egyptian correspondents express their private emotions and opinions instead of only doing their proffession". That's what shows class and a really PRO approach. In Poland, when the pope died or the plane crashed, journalists of our local news stations started a crying/mourning contest - it was disgusting and unbearable t…

Everyone on TV crying sure seems like it would be super annoying. But I find the notion that journalist should, or even indeed ever could, be 100% objective and impartial - silly. Silly and most prevalent in America. Curiously also in America we have Fox news which clearly does not abide by objectivity even as it advertises itself with it. My point is simply that pure objectivity is an impossibility. Attempting to re…

A tv journalist's job is to give information, not express own emotions. People are only people, and mistakes in moments of strong emotion can happen, but that's why they were reprimended. I know pure objectivity is technically impossible to achieve, but I turn on to the news hoping I will get information on the subject, not some journalists' feelings, because I really don't care - they're the medium, not the subject.

When journalists want to show some emotional aspect of an event, they can interview citizens on the streets, that's their job; expressing it themselves is not pro and surely not trustworthy.

> Al Jazeera, which is accused of having copied the style of fox news if not the substance

Huh? Who said that? AJE is BBC's school, not Fox. I've heard their local channels are more expressive in their orientation, but AJE is another league.

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