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Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by dwater »

closeparen wrote: post #22
tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

Rather than work with all clients directly, the major tech companies run partnership programs for smaller resellers and service providers. A partner account is sometimes the best or only way to download administration tools, firmware images, documentation, etc. or talk to actually competent engineering support. It also confers a license to use the company's trademark in your branding and establishes some amount of tr…

There can also be business opportunities offered exclusively to partners. My company wants more people to become AWS Practitioners for this reason. I believe Amazon refers work to its partners, although I'm not clear on the details.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by Whinner »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #37
tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

A lot of IT has moved to MSPs. And MSPs care that their engineers are certified in the software or equipment their clients use. It's a selling point, because personnel are the product. But if the job is working with Cisco network equipment and Windows PCs, a Google cert is worth less than the paper it's printed on. I don't know how many businesses would value a general "IT Support Certification" from Google, because…

As a follow up on this, MSPs also get better pricing depending on the number of certified employees they have. For instance, years ago the MSP i worked for needed a number of people to have their VMware VCP cert to get to the next level. Even after someone left, they kept their VCP still associated with the MSP.

Cisco also does the same thing. You need a certain number of CCIEs on staff for better pricing.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by TheHypnotist »

tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

My employer has us get two a year. They generally favor the AWS certs, but certs in other relevant fields, apps, or service work too.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by dartdartdart1 »

tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

Got one from google, near worthless

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by Clubber »

drcross wrote: post #9
tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

The CCIE I got most certainly changed my life with the amount of income I could command.

CCIE is probably the only cert worth a damn. It's hard as hell and they require in-lab, in-person, on-equipment testing or at least they used to. It's very valuable.

The online certs like MCSE, MCSD etc can all be easily hacked via brain dumps. With programming, being able to answer technical questions doesn't mean much without the craftsmanship / artistry it takes to actually build stuff.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by TheHypnotist »

rootsofallevil wrote: post #8
slumdev wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Product-specific certs (like for O365, Azure, or AWS) are a big deal and a big help in getting hired into those roles. General knowledge certs don't seem to be relevant.

Do you think so? I know some employers do care but more to be able to claim X consultants certified in tech Y than as a guide for hiring. Capgemini are pretty big on certs but most people we hired didn't have them, just got them after they joined (This is my experience in the UK)

100% - they are not a replacement for experience but they get you noticed for sure. Some jobs even require them on the posting.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by [deleted] »

tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

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Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by uncle_j »

Most employers don't care about your degree (at least in the UK), I doubt many places will care about this.

I am also "Sitecore Certified". Sitecore Certified basically means your company paid for you to sit in a room and complete a training course for a week and do a multiple choice test which can be completed by using the Object Explorer in Visual Studio. Does that make me knowledgeable about Sitecore? Nope not at all.

I'd rather see a website, some scripts on github, talking through a problem rather than a piece of paper saying you completed a course.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by gamblor956 »

I think it's quite ironic that software developers complain all the time about assessing the skills and experience of job candidates when the whole point of certifications is to establish a specified level of skill and experience in the matter certified.

Many certifications are entry level, but some are not. Many certifications just require you to sit in a room for a few hours and take a simple test, but some certifications are strenuous, in-depth tests that require you to actually study and know the subject tested.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by baja_blast »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #34
jimbokun wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"because the kinds of candidates I saw with certificates were generally inferior and couldn't code their way out of a paper bag" Or in this case, because they are entry level and its their first programming job?

The third sentence of the article says "...75,000 entry-level jobs require Python proficiency." They're not expecting to hire Guido to those jobs, but someone who knows which side of the keyboard should be on top would be a good start. Given two candidates, one who went to a training exercise and earned a certificate for it and one who has a Github page that includes a couple disgusting, hacky, buggy Python scripts (…

> Github page that includes a couple disgusting, hacky, buggy Python scripts

I am more surprised when Python code I read isn't!

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