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Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by slumdev »

rootsofallevil wrote: post #8
slumdev wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Product-specific certs (like for O365, Azure, or AWS) are a big deal and a big help in getting hired into those roles. General knowledge certs don't seem to be relevant.

Do you think so? I know some employers do care but more to be able to claim X consultants certified in tech Y than as a guide for hiring. Capgemini are pretty big on certs but most people we hired didn't have them, just got them after they joined (This is my experience in the UK)

None of them are amazing predictors of success, only a baseline for competence.

Tech consulting shops especially demonstrate a preference for people who have certs relevant to the work that they're trying to sell.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by NittLion78 »

_ea1k wrote: post #6
tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

I suspect that they help in getting past the prescreening filters in HR departments. I'm not sure that they do much beyond that, though.

It helps me, when interviewing people (already past the HR screen), to make assumptions about what we don't need to talk about. I'll still do my checks on your knowledge to make sure you aren't just a cert collector who has no real hands-on knowledge, but it tells me that there are certain things I probably don't have to dig into.

Aside from that, I'd agree - it's a variable to plug into a dumb screening system to make you appear on the "good" list.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by duxup »

_ea1k wrote: post #6
tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

I suspect that they help in getting past the prescreening filters in HR departments. I'm not sure that they do much beyond that, though.

That's not an insignificant thing.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by devilmoon »

rootsofallevil wrote: post #8
slumdev wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Product-specific certs (like for O365, Azure, or AWS) are a big deal and a big help in getting hired into those roles. General knowledge certs don't seem to be relevant.

Do you think so? I know some employers do care but more to be able to claim X consultants certified in tech Y than as a guide for hiring. Capgemini are pretty big on certs but most people we hired didn't have them, just got them after they joined (This is my experience in the UK)

Tech consultancies need people with certs because usually a client will say 'i want X people with Y certificate on this project or I'll go to someone else'

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by lightedman »

I wish CompTIA's A+ cert would get fixed. I know of a guy that has his A+, works as a computer repair tech, and doesn't know that you can plug a speaker into most motherboards to get POST Beep diagnostic codes, or how to watch a drive activity light to see if the system is indeed posting/loading and you might have an issue like a bad GPU if you get no display but still have a single "GOOD" POST beep.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by zelly »

tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

It's going to become more important as programming becomes commoditized.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by commandlinefan »

_ea1k wrote: post #6
tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

I suspect that they help in getting past the prescreening filters in HR departments. I'm not sure that they do much beyond that, though.

I’ve never seen any evidence of this happening in real life, but here on HN (and on Slashdot back when I read it) it’s common to see people insist that they would never hire anybody who _had_ any sort of certification. The reasoning usually goes something like “everybody I’ve met who had that certification was an idiot, so I can extrapolate that everybody who has it is also an idiot”.

Of course, there are people here who say the same about college degrees, too.

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by jimbokun »

firebird84 wrote: post #4
tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

I purposefully ignore certificates when looking at CVs. Once upon a time, I actually looked at them prejudicially, because the kinds of candidates I saw with certificates were generally inferior and couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. These days I just don't really give them any weight one way or another.

"because the kinds of candidates I saw with certificates were generally inferior and couldn't code their way out of a paper bag"

Or in this case, because they are entry level and its their first programming job?

Re: Google offers certificate to help IT career growth

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Post by commandlinefan »

slumdev wrote: post #3
tombert wrote: post #2

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but as someone who has a bunch of these company-sponsored certificates, does any employer (outside of the one issuing it) care at all about these certs? I have a few from EdX, something from W3Schools, and something from RedHat that I still put on my resume for some indiscernible reason, but having asked interviewers about it after being hired, they don't appear to have been of…

Product-specific certs (like for O365, Azure, or AWS) are a big deal and a big help in getting hired into those roles. General knowledge certs don't seem to be relevant.

Well, in theory, it should be impossible to complete these specific certs without having the background general knowledge in the first place. In theory.
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