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A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

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Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#131
post #103

Lots of comments in this thread about why they have implemented this before implementing addons. Based on Mozilla's public project board it looks like they are well underway on implementing add-ons: https://github.com/orgs/mozilla-mobile/projects/44 Check the done column

The comments here re. "why before addons" is because the marketing-speak (tm) blog post leaves everyone with the impression that this new version is just about to replace the existing FF for Android that does support uBlockOrigin. And as many comments here indicate (and I am with those who feel this way), for a huge swath of FF for Android users, the ability to have uBlockOrigin is the critical reason why they have F…

> the ability to have uBlockOrigin is the critical reason why they have FF for Android

Me too

Agreed that the blog post is dross. I still hold out hope though that Mozilla is not as dumb as their dumbest blogpost :)

Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#132
Ugh so what is what and what's the news? There are (among others like ff klar) for android:

- firefox (firefox) > old

- firefox for android beta (firefox_beta) > old

- firefox nightly for developers (fennec_aurora)> old (maybe this one will move to fenix and that's the news?)

- firefox preview (fenix)> fenix rewrite

- firefox preview nightly for developers (fenix.nightly) > fenix rewrite (app also shows up as "firefox nightly", but with an outline logo)

I brackets is the end of the package name (org.mozilla...). They really should get a naming convention on the road.

all mozilla apps here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/cluster?clp=ig...

Fenix is nice, but still lacking add-on support (which is a dealbreaker for me)

Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#133
post #2

Doesn't work in my (widely used) Android version. I'm a long time Firefox user and feel abandoned.

But you can still use the current (that will be old in the future) Firefox. yeah, no security updates but your OS is not getting them either. It sucks, and it shouldn't be that way, I'm with you, but it's the harsh reality. So, blaming only Mozilla for this situation looks a bit unfair from my point of view.

Of course, I don't blame Mozilla for all of that. I'd like them to champion disadvantaged users, that's all.

I expect more from Mozilla than from the other players in the web/browser/mobile scene, perhaps I'm wrong!

Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#134
post #9

If Firefox pushes this before implementing support for extensions (namely uBlock or other ad-blocking / privacy extensions) then Firefox is well and truly toast on Android. Correct me if I am wrong but the only reason non-tech people use Firefox on Android is to block ads. Perhaps this is a push from Mozilla to try and get some search revenue flowing again?

I had bought into the Firefox ecosystem down to their password manager and would have paid for premium services. Remove the ability to adblock on mobile and I'm pulling out of the entire ecosystem. What a betrayal. They don't even have any skin in the ad game

As someone who was deeply disappointed when they broke all old extensions before fixing the new API (but had nowhere to go as Chrome had always had neutered extensions compared to Firefox) I hope they'll fix the extension interface first this time.

Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#135
post #106

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> Blame Google, for its algorithms that are directly shaping our communications and culture. Hell, blame all tech companies that use algorithms to determine culture > Mozilla, and every other website owner, must play the game No. Mozilla and every other contributor still have a responsibility for what they put out there. Google and Facebook messing up the overall environment doesn't let individual contributors off th…

Hating the game vs. hating the player. We all have to do things in our own self-interest, especially when there are higher powers bearing down upon us. They're not off the hook, but they're not the biggest fish that needs to be fried. Going after them won't solve anything except the need to vent one's own emotions. The cycle will continue to repeat for other websites and other people. We've established that it happen…

Severely off-topic but this is also how I feel about battling racism in America, but the general notion of systems vs specific agents was strongly reinforced for me by the Slovenian political writer Slavoj Zizek in a book of his after 9/11 wherein he remarks that Left politics were becoming more and more about targeting specific agents when the processes that motivate and constrain those agents (as well as our own) are so much more anonymous that its difficult for people to even parse the significance of.

Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#136
post #126

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That marketing babble is there for the same reason the majority of YouTube videos are >10 minutes and filled with the same filler: Google's ranking algorithm. For YouTube videos it's mean watch time. Filler babble pumps up those numbers. For Google, it's mean read time. Filler babble also pumps up this number. However, it also ranks higher directly because it's considered a "long form" piece instead of a soundbite, a…

> the majority of YouTube videos are >10 minutes and filled with the same filler: Google's ranking algorithm. Ironically now sometimes google shows video results suggesting to skip the first few seconds. I swear I've seen it a few times, but maybe I was being A/B tested

Also seen it when searching for some how-tos. More than a few times. I thought it was brilliant, but now that you mention it: why doesn't this show up more often?

Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#137
post #34

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If you are checking something else, I recommend Brave. I've switched from Firefox to Brave and I am mostly satisfied.

HN mods should investigate the systematic downvoting of pro-Brave comments. It happens on every discussion of browsers.

I "systematically" downvote comments that exist solely to advertise an alternative to the software being discussed. I would do the exact same thing to "hey, use firefox" comments on a Brave-related article.

Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#138
I'm a happy user of Firefox Preview for a while not, and I just want to say to all developers: THANK YOU!

It's pretty stable in my experience, and in fact much faster than the main version.

Link for those who want to try it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fe...

Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#139
post #62
post #13

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For me personally, uBlock (and other extensions) is the only reason I am using Firefox on Android. If this feature is removed, I will either go back to Samsung Browser or check something else.

I have 2 reasons uBlock and the fact that I can use my own sync server.

How do you do that? I have been wanting to run my own sync for a long time but haven't been able to figure it out.

Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly

#140
post #62

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I have 2 reasons uBlock and the fact that I can use my own sync server.

How do you do that? I have been wanting to run my own sync for a long time but haven't been able to figure it out.

https://mozilla-services.readthedocs.io/en/latest/howtos/run...

was the guide I used

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