Can somebody please remind me why the mobile firefox is stuck at version 68.x whereas other platforms have moved on to 72?
A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly
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Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly
#122Doesn't work in my (widely used) Android version. I'm a long time Firefox user and feel abandoned.
I've been using Firefox Preview on and off since last summer on a low-end phone running 5.1 with no issues due to Android version.
Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly
#123Quite a lot of negativity from HN so far, so I'll add some counter. I've been using the Firefox preview since it was announced and overall have found it to be a vast improvement on the previous incarnation. Tab management is much more intuitive and easier on the thumbs, the URL bar being at the bottom is jarring at first but soon becomes much easier to use, the performance is similar to the Firefox Focus which I had…
> Tab management is much more intuitive and easier on the thumbs It's worse if you have many tabs and the compartmentalisation feature is not flexible enough to be used with many tabs. Oh and the missing preview image is annoying when I'm looking for a site, because it's easier to look for a tab by looking at it then reading every title > the URL bar being at the bottom is jarring at first but soon becomes much easie…
> when I want to edit an url I first have to click on the bottom and then at the top as well.
Another annoyance is how it never disappears. I get that it would be less intuitive to have a bar at the bottom disappear when scrolling down a page and reappear when scrolling up, but the way it is now, with the bar always there, some websites are simply unusable in landscape mode on a regular phone.
All in all, a great and brave decision, but poorly executed.
Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not you, I only opened the article to see if they had dealt with input lag and just lag in general and I get 6 paragraphs of unwanted marketing speak until I even get close to something resembling actual changes. If anyone from Mozilla is reading this, just get to the facts next time, don't insult us by throwing a ton of marketing babble at us, we don't care.
That marketing babble is there for the same reason the majority of YouTube videos are >10 minutes and filled with the same filler: Google's ranking algorithm. For YouTube videos it's mean watch time. Filler babble pumps up those numbers. For Google, it's mean read time. Filler babble also pumps up this number. However, it also ranks higher directly because it's considered a "long form" piece instead of a soundbite, a…
I doubt that Mozilla needs this page to be ranked high, it's more of a press release and not a landing page that should come up high in search results when you search for Firefox...
Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
That marketing babble is there for the same reason the majority of YouTube videos are >10 minutes and filled with the same filler: Google's ranking algorithm. For YouTube videos it's mean watch time. Filler babble pumps up those numbers. For Google, it's mean read time. Filler babble also pumps up this number. However, it also ranks higher directly because it's considered a "long form" piece instead of a soundbite, a…
I doubt that Mozilla needs this page to be ranked high, it's more of a press release and not a landing page that should come up high in search results when you search for Firefox...
Ranking individual pages is vitally important in the website traffic game.
Suppose Mozilla's goal for its blog is to generate a lot of organic traffic so that people are aware of Moz Corp's continuing development efforts. If that were the case, individual ranking of pages matters.
A domain name has a certain "rank," that's based entirely on on-page SEO -- or all of the indexed pages and site as a whole -- and off-page SEO -- or all of the domains and pages that link to it.
One of the algos in determining on-page SEO is cumulative ranking of all pages under that domain. That is, a single page's ranking is not an isolated variable based purely on that page and its content alone. The other pages that fall under that same domain impact every other page on said domain.
If Mozilla published a poorly SEO'ed blog article, that would negatively affect the ranking of all other articles under the blog.mozilla.org name -- and more severely any other pages that link to it or are linked inside of it.
That's only the first part. Suppose they wanted to generate traffic for this individual press release? Then that's a whole nother ball of wax.
Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not you, I only opened the article to see if they had dealt with input lag and just lag in general and I get 6 paragraphs of unwanted marketing speak until I even get close to something resembling actual changes. If anyone from Mozilla is reading this, just get to the facts next time, don't insult us by throwing a ton of marketing babble at us, we don't care.
That marketing babble is there for the same reason the majority of YouTube videos are >10 minutes and filled with the same filler: Google's ranking algorithm. For YouTube videos it's mean watch time. Filler babble pumps up those numbers. For Google, it's mean read time. Filler babble also pumps up this number. However, it also ranks higher directly because it's considered a "long form" piece instead of a soundbite, a…
> the majority of YouTube videos are >10 minutes and filled with the same filler: Google's ranking algorithm.
Ironically now sometimes google shows video results suggesting to skip the first few seconds. I swear I've seen it a few times, but maybe I was being A/B tested
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had bought into the Firefox ecosystem down to their password manager and would have paid for premium services. Remove the ability to adblock on mobile and I'm pulling out of the entire ecosystem. What a betrayal. They don't even have any skin in the ad game
They are working on WebExtension support [1] as well as built-in basic ad-blocking [2]. Anyone can follow the progress on their public issue tracker on GitHub. 1: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/5315 2: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/96
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Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly
#128Can somebody please remind me why the mobile firefox is stuck at version 68.x whereas other platforms have moved on to 72?
Because mobile Firefox is now ESR until the new mobile Firefox ("Fenix") is ready.
Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly
#129If Firefox pushes this before implementing support for extensions (namely uBlock or other ad-blocking / privacy extensions) then Firefox is well and truly toast on Android. Correct me if I am wrong but the only reason non-tech people use Firefox on Android is to block ads. Perhaps this is a push from Mozilla to try and get some search revenue flowing again?
WebExtension support in theory is coming in Q1 - https://github.com/orgs/mozilla-mobile/projects/44 Regardless, Firefox Preview already blocks ads and trackers perfectly fine the built-in tracking protection. I've not seen an ad in the months I've been using it.
> Regardless, Firefox Preview already blocks ads and trackers perfectly fine the built-in tracking protection.
I don't want a blacklist of ads and trackers. I want all third party scripts and frames blocked by default, which uBlock Origin does perfectly.
Re: A new browsing experience arrives in Firefox for Android Nightly
#130Uhh why does everything have to be an experience nowadays?