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Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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Re: Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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Obsolete cables are not just technology marching forward, but also customers buying other makers’ devices that make them useless. An iPhone user buying an android phone will need a new set of cables, his old lightning ones have no purpose anymore.

iPhone users don’t switch to Android in enough scale for that to be a factor.

Indeed, because there aren't enough iPhone users to begin with.

87% vs 13%

Re: Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obsolete cables are not just technology marching forward, but also customers buying other makers’ devices that make them useless. An iPhone user buying an android phone will need a new set of cables, his old lightning ones have no purpose anymore.

iPhone users don’t switch to Android in enough scale for that to be a factor.

That's a single scenario (focusing on the 'obsolete' part), and android users buying iPhones has the same effect (additional cables for no functional difference)

There's an infinite number of cases where getting rid of the lightning spec would reduce the number of cables.

A household with an iPhone and an android user would also buy an extra set of cables that could be avoided. Even having an iPad in the mix generates cable duplication: the iPad Pro is on the different connector, android users buying an iPad is also more common than one would think.

Broadening to charging stations in waiting rooms, shopping malls, cafes etc., including other portable devices like headphones, portable batteries, cameras, etc. and the iPhone having its own non standard and connector is more and more a waste.

Re: Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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How is it pointless? The article talks about trying to cut down on electronic waste: > The regulator is determined to cut down on electronic waste being created by obsolete cables, which it estimates generate more than 51,000 tonnes of waste per year. It's surely much less wasteful to extend the life of the cable standard than to ensure longer cable lifespans. Even if you had a cable that lasted 7 years, chances are…

It's pointless because , the chance of a cable lasting 7 years doesn't happen. Even the phone isn't typically designed to last that long. The cases where people end up replacing their cable because of a new standard is way less frequent than the cable breaking, this has been my experience at least considering the shifting standards which you talk about. It sounds a bit like optimizing some process but ignoring what i…

Until recently my daughter was still using a 30pin cable that came with a first gen iPad. So "the chance of a cable lasting 7 years doesn't happen" is patently false.

Re: Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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To everyone that thinks no ports, Qi only iPhones are the future. What if you want to use your phone while it chargers? Charge your phone in the car? I think we are another 10 years at least from having a device that could last long enough off a single charge to warrant occasionally leaving it on a pad over night as the main charging method.

I would not be a fan of not having a charging port, but I Qi charge my phone in the car every day. It's fine. One of my cars has it built-in to the armrest, and in another I have a third-party mount with an integrated Qi charger.

I've almost completely moved to Qi charging my phone.

Oddly it took a while for me to find an in car CD mount type, as most of them are air vent types.

Re: Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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Would someday they mandate all USB-C cables to support 100W standard to reduce wastage? So we dont have fragmented USB-C cables? For those of us old enough to remember we used to have dozens of different types of cables, We are now basically converging to CatX Ethernet Cables, HDMI, USB-C High Power and Low Power, and Lightning. I dont understand why we need to further mandate this to "one" solution, especially when…

I'd like that connector to be a bit more secure. Not a lot, just a simple mechanical notch like on RCA would do.

Re: Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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That seems like pretty pointless regulation. If they don't like cable waste, just slap a Pigovian Tax on cable waste ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigovian_tax ) and let the market sort it out. > The regulator is determined to cut down on electronic waste being created by obsolete cables, which it estimates generate more than 51,000 tonnes of waste per year. Giving a per capita figure would have been helpful.

There are apple sheep that stand in snow thinking they are changing history. Market cannot sort out dumb

Re: Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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I am by no means a libertarian pry-from-my-cold-dead-hands type, but it's ludicrous to me that this is being legislated. There are way bigger problems to solve, EU. Quite honestly who gives a shit what connector phones use? Most users will stick with the same brand from device to device; I've been using the same chargers since 2013 or so.

Ironically, this change would instantly produce a ton of tech waste and user inconvenience when apple customers throw away their old lightning cables.

Re: Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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I have lived with both the UK and the "Euro" "standardish" 2 pin with earth on the outside plug for my formative years. I'm a UK army brat. I'll take the UK plug any day. It is bigger by far in two unimportant dimensions but thinner by far in the important one. The chord runs downwards on all UK plugs not at 90 degrees to the wall by default but I will accept that many Euro plugs also run downwards. A UK plug is a bi…

Yes, the only downside is when you stand on it.

And Americans think Lego is the worst thing to stand on. They've never stood on a 3 pin plug!

Re: Apple may have to abandon Lightning connector cable

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Does anyone know if there's any merit to Apple's claim that USB-C isn't compatible with the iPhone's slim dimensions? (From the article: "Apple insisted that its slimmer devices would be unable to fit the then-new USB-C technology ...") Just looking at the tech specs for the iPhone 11 (lightning) [1] versus iPad Pro (USB-C) [2], the former is actually thicker at 8.3 mm compared to 5.9 mm, and yet the iPad Pro can hav…

It is pure bullshit.

Same way that the reason they removed the 3.5mm jack was "space" or "courage".

That was shown to be demonstrably not true, as thinner devices kept being released with the port.

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