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What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

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Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

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This is why we need autonomous delivery services. Exploiting robots is acceptable, exploiting humans on the other hand isn't.

I've seen a couple of these around in LA ( https://thespoon.tech/postmates-serve-robot-spotted-and-film... ) and can only hope they become mainstream in the very near future.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

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post #160

Why can’t we have normal businesses where you employ your workers and charge your customers the real cost of the transaction ? If that is not viable, don’t start the business to begin with. Let’s just go back to first principles, can we ?

Can we please do that for all jobs? I want the workers at places I get food and such from to actually just have good base pay.

Tips should be about rewarding going BEYOND the normal... not as a basis of someone's wage.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#174
It seems like the biggest problem that 'Mariah' at the top of the article faces is that she has too many children, no partner, and her car is too fuel inefficient.

The best way to help people in her situation is to encourage family planning, marriage, and cheap electric vehicles.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

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post #160

Why can’t we have normal businesses where you employ your workers and charge your customers the real cost of the transaction ? If that is not viable, don’t start the business to begin with. Let’s just go back to first principles, can we ?

This is just a natural outcome of the way venture capital funding works at the moment. When you care more about speculation than what's actually fundamentally occuring, you're going to get businesses funded that are not even able to survive on those basic fundamentals. If it weren't backed by large capital, it couldn't exist.

This isn't always a bad thing, but on a whole, it does distort the market. At some point you have to weigh up if the good effects of this are worth the bad effects. If there were higher taxes, costs, or otherwise more risk for investing, it would limit that a lot.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"However, if a worker rejects too many jobs too frequently, they may receive fewer job offers as a result." They take those jobs because they lose all access to the chance of profitable jobs otherwise. The people working for door dash aren't exactly the sort of person with the ability to fully understand probabilities and statistics either. I'd say it's fair to assume their business model works by bullying the same p…

I've worked these gigs before, and so have friends of mine with advanced STEM degrees. Sometimes you are stuck between a rock and a hard place (usually you are, if you're low income) and your current dilemma is between not being able to afford your rent tomorrow or food tonight, and working some exploitative app gig like this. So cool the condescension. Poor folks -- even those with really low numeracy -- are general…

None of all of what you wrote addresses how those folks between a rock and a hard place will be better off not having the option to work for a given service at all.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#177

It seems like the biggest problem that 'Mariah' at the top of the article faces is that she has too many children, no partner, and her car is too fuel inefficient. The best way to help people in her situation is to encourage family planning, marriage, and cheap electric vehicles.

Yes, this would be ideal, but what about the people who are already in this situation? Are they a lost cause?

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve always wondered what was going on when the driver didn’t match the person listed in the app. Doesn’t seem like there would be any benefit? (For me it’s often a male driver who is displayed as female in the app)

The person doing the actual driving is likely in the country illegaly or driving with a suspended license/no insurance.

And then in the cyberpunk dystopian future, the illegals in turn build a nano-market by contracting to children, on top of their micro-market under the GrubHub level consumer market.

It's grey commerce all the way down!

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've worked these gigs before, and so have friends of mine with advanced STEM degrees. Sometimes you are stuck between a rock and a hard place (usually you are, if you're low income) and your current dilemma is between not being able to afford your rent tomorrow or food tonight, and working some exploitative app gig like this. So cool the condescension. Poor folks -- even those with really low numeracy -- are general…

None of all of what you wrote addresses how those folks between a rock and a hard place will be better off not having the option to work for a given service at all.

Because people still want food cooked and delivered and to use taxis.

If the non financially viable companies did not exist then financially viable ones would.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

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post #160

Why can’t we have normal businesses where you employ your workers and charge your customers the real cost of the transaction ? If that is not viable, don’t start the business to begin with. Let’s just go back to first principles, can we ?

If you try to compete with DoorDash using that model, you will either have to charge much higher prices than they do, or you will lose money on every transaction. Either way you will go out of business as long as DoorDash or similar companies are able to compete with you.
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