Next time, don't take down your country's Internet.
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Hosni Mubarak finally steps down
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Re: Hosni Mubarak finally steps down
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Let's hope that is what they get.
They've set an example on how to do a peaceful revolution. They've earned the right to choose their own government. Now, they'll have to learn from their choices, good and bad ones!
Yes indeed, now the hard part comes.
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This event is covered on TV, moreover it is covered on other sites which are more mainstream such as reddit, digg etc. I come here to read tech and startup news, this is not something I want to read about on HN. It is also a shame that users who try to question the relevancy of HN submissions get downvoted. Even though it has more than 100 upvotes it is still not relevant to what this site is about. Unless the goal i…
I think answering the "What system have you hacked?" question on the next Y Combinator application with "Taking down my country's dictatorship" would be a pretty kick ass answer. I think we can live with 1 spot on the front page for a few hours of one day being used up by the story of a 30 year old dictatorship being overthrown by its people. Especially considering there were about 8 stories this morning about the No…
Political activity != hacking. Nokia and Microsoft are tech companies.
Re: Hosni Mubarak finally steps down
#54Whatever outcome may result over time, I'm happy for the people of Egypt. Once again, the desire to be free eventually overwhelms the arbitrary tyranny of a dictator.
It will certainly be interesting to see if this leads to a domino effect in the Middle East and how it affects US foreign policy.
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#55Ok. We'll see what happens. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MB02Ak01.html In the most fundamental matters, President and Mrs Mubarak are incomparably more enlightened than the Egyptian public.
So, does kidnapping innocent people off the streets, imprisoning them in dungeons and torturing them by wiring car batteries to their genitals count as "fundamental"? Or is that just one of those insignificant matters?
What about stealing billions of dollars from your people? Is that a sign of enlightenment?
Re: Hosni Mubarak finally steps down
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Don't be very enthusiastic, especially for Egypt. They have got a very sensible position. They are Israel neighbor, they have the Suez Canal, and also the most populated Arabic country (They can become a power). That is, I don't think that the U.S will give up that easily. Also keep in mind, that the Arab nations want to unite. If you give the people the power, you'll see tomorrow that most of the borders are removed…
If you give the people the power, you'll see tomorrow that most of the borders are removed WTF? Have you ever spoken with an actual Arab? If you had, you'd know that nationalism is alive and well. Egyptians are quite cognizant of the differences between themselves and Syrians or Lebanese or Jordanians. They have zero interest in abolishing borders and uniting with other countries. But what do I know, I'm only an Egyp…
> But what do I know, I'm only an Egyptian.
You're only one Egyptian.
Borders won't disappear, at least not over night, but Arabs have a sense of unity and brotherhood in their subconscious.
> WTF? Have you ever spoken with an actual Arab?
I am one ;) and I speak with them all the time. I believe csomar is also one (judging by his name).
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If you give the people the power, you'll see tomorrow that most of the borders are removed WTF? Have you ever spoken with an actual Arab? If you had, you'd know that nationalism is alive and well. Egyptians are quite cognizant of the differences between themselves and Syrians or Lebanese or Jordanians. They have zero interest in abolishing borders and uniting with other countries. But what do I know, I'm only an Egyp…
I really don't know about you. I'm not saying they want to form a one country and become one nation; but make trade easier, one currency (may be in the future). I was speaking from the financial side. For their support for brothers countries like Palestine, may be you won't support them, but the majority does. And you being an Egyptian doesn't represent what the majority of Egyptians think. Only the future will tell…
If you look at what has happened with Greece and Spain and Portugal and Ireland in the Euro... I strongly doubt any large group of nations will get on board the "one currency" train in the next 25 years.
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If you give the people the power, you'll see tomorrow that most of the borders are removed WTF? Have you ever spoken with an actual Arab? If you had, you'd know that nationalism is alive and well. Egyptians are quite cognizant of the differences between themselves and Syrians or Lebanese or Jordanians. They have zero interest in abolishing borders and uniting with other countries. But what do I know, I'm only an Egyp…
> But what do I know, I'm only an Egyptian. You're only one Egyptian. Borders won't disappear, at least not over night, but Arabs have a sense of unity and brotherhood in their subconscious. > WTF? Have you ever spoken with an actual Arab? I am one ;) and I speak with them all the time. I believe csomar is also one (judging by his name).
Borders won't disappear, at least not over night, but Arabs have a sense of unity and brotherhood in their subconscious.
You know this is pseudo-science garbage, right? There is no reason to believe that Arabs have a particular "sense of unity and brotherhood". There is no evidence. I know that people like to make up stories about how awesome their national/religious/ethnic group is, but at HN I'd hope we could dispense with that BS.
And even if it were true, that doesn't tell us anything about whether Egyptians want to merge their country with Jordan or Libya or Sudan.
Re: Hosni Mubarak finally steps down
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If you give the people the power, you'll see tomorrow that most of the borders are removed WTF? Have you ever spoken with an actual Arab? If you had, you'd know that nationalism is alive and well. Egyptians are quite cognizant of the differences between themselves and Syrians or Lebanese or Jordanians. They have zero interest in abolishing borders and uniting with other countries. But what do I know, I'm only an Egyp…
I really don't know about you. I'm not saying they want to form a one country and become one nation; but make trade easier, one currency (may be in the future). I was speaking from the financial side. For their support for brothers countries like Palestine, may be you won't support them, but the majority does. And you being an Egyptian doesn't represent what the majority of Egyptians think. Only the future will tell…
Look at how difficult any of this similar co-operation has been for Europeans.
You seem to suggest that you can't extrapolate from one Egyptian to all Egyptians, yet at the same time you seem to be talking about Arabs as some monolithic mono-culture, which seems like a very backwards and ill-informed view.
Sure, Egyptians and, say, Jordanians are both Arabs, but guess what, Brits and, say, Austrians are both Germanic Caucasians, don't expect them to team up anytime soon.
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#60I'm very happy for Egyptian people. People of Egypt deserve a better leader, a better government. The guy who said 'I am ready to die' yesterday on CNN almost made me cry. Thats the spirit, and that spirit deserved a victory which they finally achieved. I hope the same happens for other nations that have been held under dictatorship for decades.
Don't be very enthusiastic, especially for Egypt. They have got a very sensible position. They are Israel neighbor, they have the Suez Canal, and also the most populated Arabic country (They can become a power). That is, I don't think that the U.S will give up that easily. Also keep in mind, that the Arab nations want to unite. If you give the people the power, you'll see tomorrow that most of the borders are removed…
For the current stage, both Tunisia and Egypt, it's more important for these countries to regain their internal health: freedom for the people, fixing the corruption.
Getting rid of external influences (specially American) is a whole other story; to come in a later stage.