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Microsoft just bought Nokia for $0

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Re: Microsoft just bought Nokia for $0

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"And to those whose Nokia/Windows smartphones will give them the mobile variation on the MS 'BSOD' while calling 911, my condolences to you too." Just a giant frustrated douchebag who likes Android. Why is this even submitted? It's clearly trolling

Yeah, he can't even get the name of Windows Phone right.

Re: Microsoft just bought Nokia for $0

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Oh wow, I hadn't thought of that. Yeah I imagine this is likely to piss off Nokia's most loyal developers. I doubt Linux distributions are going to notice. QT will continue to be a rock solid first class platform even with minimal new development. It already has more features than it needs. They could probably coast for a decade before it begins to hurt on Linux.

When I used it Qt was dual licensed, one way for commercial closed source, and GPL for open source. It can just be forked right?

Sure, but who's going to enhance it and promote it and keep it growing and alive?

KDE? Oracle? :-)

Re: Microsoft just bought Nokia for $0

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> That's what this post is: someone refusing to face the changing landscape of tech. I didn't read that at all, what I read was someone saying that change is necessary, but that this change has huge benefits for Microsoft but questionable benefits for Nokia. We should be wary of falling into the "politician's fallacy" from the delightful Britcom "Yes, Prime Minister:" We must do something. This is something. Therefor…

There is no other "something" to be done to save Nokia. It brings benefit to Microsoft, and it saves Nokia.

Baloney. Some of Nokia's other options were to

1. Develop a fantastic new platform/product/ecosystem that people wanted to buy (using local talent)

2. Support Android on some or most of their devices

3. Reinvigorate their current platform somehow (new features, reduced costs, new apps, developer incentives, etc)

Keep in mind, MS's product in this space is widely considered less than successful. The only thing MS has going for it is cash in the bank, but so do Google and Apple and Nokia.

How many people walk into the store thinking "I'd like to sign up to buy a Windows phone"? How is this going to benefit Nokia again?

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My favourite phone was the Nokia 6210. That thing was damned near indestructable. The 6310i was also great but it only really added bluetooth and had no authentication on the AT modem profile (which meant anyone could connect to it and dial up to the Internet, snarf data and so on whenever bluetooth was on). The problem with Nokia was that they kept messing around with Symbian and didn't really know what it was for,…

Years ago it seemed to me that Symbian was a dead-end. Just reading about the programmer APIs was enough to convince me of that. Motorola finally realized that P2K and their other proprietary stuff wasn't going to cut it for the future. Most of these mobile phone OSs were designed for very small, resource-constrained devices. Which is fine... that's all that was viable in the market at the time. But they weren't desi…

That's a good comment, but bear in mind that the MP support in the 90s was Pentium Pro only (and expanded to x86/64). While multi-processing algorithms can be generalised, they're best when they're optimal for the architecture they're running on. MP on Arm is quite different when it comes to things like thumbing and pipelining compared to x86.

I only know this because I did some work on Arm 7 after doing some MP work on Pentium Pro 200s a few years earlier. It's amazing the crap your brain collects over time!

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> That's what this post is: someone refusing to face the changing landscape of tech. I didn't read that at all, what I read was someone saying that change is necessary, but that this change has huge benefits for Microsoft but questionable benefits for Nokia. We should be wary of falling into the "politician's fallacy" from the delightful Britcom "Yes, Prime Minister:" We must do something. This is something. Therefor…

The way I see it Microsoft brings a lot to the table that only a few could: A fresh new OS in WP7, cloud computing infrastructure, it's own gaming ecosystem in XBox platform and its UX integration with the phone OS etc among other things. So I don't see that choosing WP7 (over Android?) is such a bad deal for Nokia. It wasn't a very long time ago that Android ecosystem wasn't very appealing to the mobile developers a…

Partnerships with Microsoft very rarely work out to the other business' advantage, unless it was their goal all along to be acquired by MS or be nothing more than a commodity hardware vendor.

We'll know this is the case if Nokia announces "the new Nokia Online Superstore where you get all your WindowsTM-compatible accessories at discount prices".

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Currently down -8.9%, with a massive spike in trading volume, on the Finnish and Swedish stock markets after a few hours of trading. However it opened more than 10% down so it's picked up a bit during trading

it haven't picked-up one bit, now down -13%.

Looked like it might stabilize around lunch, but closed down almost 15%!. Market definitely not liking this deal.

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Missing apps is like being BeOS: you can be the best OS in the world, but without apps you are not going to sell. App-less, you are nothing in this product segment. Besides, their Mac support is not that great, no support for syncing calendars. This is not 90'ies anymore, you need Mac support at this time to get the teenagers and cool people to use your product.

I don't think it's the same at all. All I use on my Android phone is e-mail, maps, the browser, and general phone stuff - honestly, I would trade the entire app store for a little more reliability and a better touch screen.

The fact that you and some others do not care about apps is irrelevant. Apps are clearly important to a large portion of the market.

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When I read such articles, that's when you realise that people are resistant to change. It's like those people still using Windows XP because it's the best. Tech is in constant change, but at some point, some people just give up and decide not to join in anymore: not to make facebook accounts, not to join twitter, not to upgrade their OS, not to switch browser. That's what this post is: someone refusing to face the c…

That's what this post is: someone refusing to face the changing landscape of tech. You clearly don't know http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=jacquesm very well. He is not at all resistant to change. To the contrary he understands tech better that most of us can ever dream of. Microsoft has been trying to figure out how to create a decent phone, and has been failing. There is no reason to believe that Microsoft's tea…

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