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Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used

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Re: Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used

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Post by starshadowx2 »

jermaustin1 wrote: post #102
crazygringo wrote: post #92

First of all, this was announced more than 3 years ago, and it still won't happen for another 2.5 years. Second of all, this should be treated as good news for the HN crowd: Google is transitioning from a proprietary, Chrome-only app model to the open-standard, PWA model. Who doesn't support that? There are a bunch of "typical Google cancelling a product" comments here. But for real, I simply cannot imagine any Chrom…

As a person who uses the Hangouts chrome app daily, I have been expecting a day when I go to launch it and it wont open for the last 3 years. Google doesn't want to support "Classic Hangouts" anymore (and supposedly they killed it in October for GSuite, but not for my domain, I guess). Hangouts is one of the only ways I privately communicate with old friends and past co-workers since EVERYONE has at least one gmail a…

Over a year ago the Hangouts app had a notice at the top saying support was going away and to switch to the extension. That is still working fine.

We've been moving people over to Chat in our domain but a large (probably majority) still use Hangouts.

Re: Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used

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Post by fenwick67 »

crazygringo wrote: post #92

First of all, this was announced more than 3 years ago, and it still won't happen for another 2.5 years. Second of all, this should be treated as good news for the HN crowd: Google is transitioning from a proprietary, Chrome-only app model to the open-standard, PWA model. Who doesn't support that? There are a bunch of "typical Google cancelling a product" comments here. But for real, I simply cannot imagine any Chrom…

Off the top of my head, these were the Chrome apps I used:

* VideoStream (allowed casting to Chromecast from filesystem) * PostMan * Internal tools at previous job that used MDNS

None of these applications work as a PWA. All of these moved to Electron instead. Which is heavier and just as non-standard and dependent on Chromium as Chrome Apps.

Re: Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used

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Post by joshuacc »

jcastro wrote: post #133
crazygringo wrote: post #92

First of all, this was announced more than 3 years ago, and it still won't happen for another 2.5 years. Second of all, this should be treated as good news for the HN crowd: Google is transitioning from a proprietary, Chrome-only app model to the open-standard, PWA model. Who doesn't support that? There are a bunch of "typical Google cancelling a product" comments here. But for real, I simply cannot imagine any Chrom…

Anyone know the status of being able to install PWAs on the desktop? The reason I use chrome apps is to have "Gmail" as an application on my desktop so I can alt-tab to it, put it on my dock, etc and treat it as a normal app instead of a tab.

The new MS Edge supports this.

Re: Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used

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Post by magila »

Andrex wrote: post #110
pier25 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So PWAs will have support for Bluetooth and all the other features of Chrome apps?

https://developers.chrome.com/apps/migration Everything except advanced File System APIs are supported by PWAs, including Bluetooth through the Web Bluetooth API. [1] The replacement Native File System API is in origin trial and is pre-standardization, however. [2] [1] https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2015/07/interact-w... [2] https://web.dev/native-file-system/

Another big gap is the sockets API. Chrome apps have direct access to TCP and UDP sockets. PWAs can't have this for obvious reasons.

Re: Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used

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Post by Andrex »

magila wrote: post #146
Andrex wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://developers.chrome.com/apps/migration Everything except advanced File System APIs are supported by PWAs, including Bluetooth through the Web Bluetooth API. [1] The replacement Native File System API is in origin trial and is pre-standardization, however. [2] [1] https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2015/07/interact-w... [2] https://web.dev/native-file-system/

Another big gap is the sockets API. Chrome apps have direct access to TCP and UDP sockets. PWAs can't have this for obvious reasons.

Good catch, and the migration page kinda glosses over that.

They are asking for input and use cases, though.

"Q: My app uses the chrome sockets API to do networking. Can this be done with the open web?

You might be able to do what you need with WebSockets. However, to use this, you will likely need to change the remote end of your connection.

If that isn't possible, we'd like to hear more about your use case—please let us know about what you're trying to accomplish via the Chromium issue tracker.[1]"

1. https://bit.ly/new-fugu-request

Re: Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used

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Post by NullPrefix »

Steltek wrote: post #128
nolok wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this was indeed a fact advertised on the marketing material or worse on the packaging/product page, then he can have a refund or at least a partial one, depending on the country. If it was talked about what could happen, or not mentionned in any official marketing material but in PR pieces, then nope. See eg the PS3 claiming it could install a normal linux. I don't know how the exact laws work in other countries,…

Wasn't the PS3 refund only like $10-$20? Why even go through that effort for a Chromebook?

It's not about the $10-$20, it's about sending the message.

Re: Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used

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Post by Ididntdothis »

dessant wrote: post #52
wazoox wrote: post #13

Typical Google move. I have a Chromebook. It was listed on the models that would support Android app, this support never came (it's still "planned", 2 years later...). Support for Linux apps didn't come, either. So now I suppose my Chromebook will be soon a useless brick. Thanks, Google. Got the message, I'll never use any product with your badge again.

> I have a Chromebook. It was listed on the models that would support Android app, this support never came (it's still "planned", 2 years later...) You should be eligible for a refund, file a complaint with consumer protection. In most places it is illegal to mislead customers and market products with planned features that you do not deliver on in a reasonable timeframe.

“file a complaint with consumer protection”

Can you clarify what you mean with this? What consumer protection?

Re: Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used

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Post by zelly »

wazoox wrote: post #13

Typical Google move. I have a Chromebook. It was listed on the models that would support Android app, this support never came (it's still "planned", 2 years later...). Support for Linux apps didn't come, either. So now I suppose my Chromebook will be soon a useless brick. Thanks, Google. Got the message, I'll never use any product with your badge again.

If you have the time, install a real OS on it.

https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Samsung/ARMChrome...

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