Mozilla lays off 70

Post by BrendanEich » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 6:57 AM UTC

_nedR wrote: post #535

BrendanEich wrote: post #448

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No, sorry -- it is encumbered as a for-profit to pay taxes, but it cannot operate as a for-profit wholly owned by private investors or public shareholders would (I'm not saying that is good or bad). It is different. It's like many sports stadia/teams, universities, hospitals: for-profit wholly owned sub of a non-profit. As I just noted in my last reply, this is abused via double-think to defend Mozilla as a "non-prof…

>Mozilla has not been able to act aggressively as a commercial player. Just one example: KaiOSTech ... I am just speculating here, but would this involve significant compromise on Mozilla's core values - specifically privacy? For example one of their investors and partners is Reliance Jio (the reason why KaiOS is the second most popular mobile OS in India) who brag about monetizing the data of their subscribers as a…

Post by m3adow » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 6:58 AM UTC

qbaqbaqba wrote: post #696

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What's the alternative? Google? Not really better even if this disappoints about Mozilla.

Edge or Brave. Different business models than Google's and to some extent Mozilla's.

Post by pnako » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 7:01 AM UTC

mcantelon wrote: post #683

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I knew Gerv, he was a convert to Christianity and as usual for converts to any religion, he was intense and fervent in his belief that he had discovered the ultimate truth. Unfortunately that can lead people to embracing the old testament bigotry more than the new testament forgiveness. Gerv wasn't a bad person, but Mitchell wasn't inaccurate in her post. Yes, Gerv was a great thing for Mozilla, but his legacy is not…

Using an obituary to characterize someone's influence as "traumatic and damaging" is kind of extraordinary.

Post by BrendanEich » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 7:02 AM UTC

staticassertion wrote: post #676

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I mean, Mozilla brings in $450 million a year in revenue and manages $600 million worth of assets. If she's able to increased the revenue or efficiency by just 1% then she's paid off almost twice her salary. edit: Fixed pronoun, apologies.

But Mozilla is doing worse than last year, not better, no?

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 7:11 AM UTC

andreasgal wrote: post #524

sstangl wrote: post #376

I'm one of the 70. There were no signs that this was imminent, although Mozilla has been struggling financially for many years. I expected that it would happen eventually; I'm relatively well-prepared for it; and it's not too shocking. I did however expect that there would be some warning signs in the lead-up, but that was not the case. I was working on Cranelift, the WebAssembly compiler that is also a plausible fut…

Shoot me an email agal at apple. Also feel free to give my email to anyone else affected.