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Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Post by AlexMax »

localhost wrote: post #220
mrr54 wrote: post #208

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And yet when I open Edge, I get a million ads for crappy tabloid news websites thrust in my face, while when I open Chrome I don't see any ads.

I just setup Edge a few minutes ago. There are two options "Inspirational" and "Focused" that show no crappy tabloid news websites and one that does - I didn't pick that one :) Also, happy to report that 1password has an extension for Edge as well - that's awesome. Only thing I'm missing is a dark mode extension. I don't trust the somewhat sketchy ones that I see so far on the store.

> I just setup Edge a few minutes ago. There are two options "Inspirational" and "Focused" that show no crappy tabloid news websites and one that does - I didn't pick that one :)

I chose focused. It's a nice option.

Too bad it doesn't respect your search engine preferences, because any searches you do with it seem to always go to Bing, regardless of what address-bar search engine you have selected.

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Post by vermilingua »

arusahni wrote: post #275
loudmax wrote: post #221

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But one wouldn't have been surprised to find out that the Microsoft's KHTML based browser doesn't run on any open source operating system.

IIRC it exists for Android.

Android is open source in the same way that Chrome is. That is to say, not.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Post by bloaf »

dstaley wrote: post #2

I'm really curious why they released to stable with so many basic features missing. For example, your bookmarks won't sync between devices (although that was recently re-enabled in the preview channels). It sounds like they're not pushing out automatic updates right now anyway, so I'm not sure what this announcement amounts to. Why not wait until the 20H1 Windows 10 feature update (which sounds like the update that w…

They released Edge before it was ready too. They never did give it any kind of sane bookmark management.

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Post by halfjoking »

bla3 wrote: post #303
int_19h wrote: post #252

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The dichotomy comes up because the new Edge supports Chrome extensions. So it's literally the same code being submitted to both stores, which makes it more of an apples-to-apples comparison.

Firefox and Safari are source compatible with chrome extensions too. Everyone copied Chrome's extension api.

Ryan Gosling thinks differently:

https://superanimo.s3.amazonaws.com/porting-firefox-extensio...

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Post by emayljames »

userbinator wrote: post #307
lostmsu wrote: post #300

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Or they could have open sourced EdgeHTML. It's not like it was worse, than Gecko.

Open-source IE would be even more interesting to see, mostly because the early versions ran well even on systems with two orders of magnitude less RAM and CPU power than ones today; especially when displaying static pages and not JS-heavy apps. I remember the Firefox of the time was noticeably more sluggish than IE6 and used more RAM, and know quite a few people who tried FF and went back to IE for that reason.

I could just imagine them looking at the (security) horrors of the IE source code, and with a cold sweat, sticking it in the drawer.

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Post by ukyrgf »

crazygringo wrote: post #231
altitudinous wrote: post #127

On MacOS it requires admin privilege to install. I am done with that after all the crap that previous software with admin rights installed. I cleaned it up and swore I would not install anything that required admin rights again - for my own security and peace of mind. What does it need admin rights for?

Seriously, that bugs the hell out of me too. Why do I need to give Adobe admin rights to install Photoshop? Why do I need to give Microsoft the same to install Word? And now for a web browser? If I'm installing something low-level like a window manager or a keyboard shortcut tool, I get it . But for a normal mainstream flagship consumer application, what on earth do they need admin privileges for?! I hate the fact I…

The amount of hooks that Adobe Creative Cloud claws into your OS is enough to make any software developer want to rip their hair out. Anytime I notice my mouse lag for a moment or an Explorer window hiccup, 30 seconds later I get notification that there is a new update for the Creative Cloud app...

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Post by paulryanrogers »

mc3 wrote: post #289
sime2009 wrote: post #184

Regarding the topic of browser mono-cultures, I was web developer in the post browser war era in the early 2000s where we had a dominant IE6 and a stagnant browser landscape. It was bad. Real bad. But I'm actually fairly positive about MS getting into the chromium landscape and back into the game. Let's face it MS had lost all of its influence in the browser world before dropping IE and making this move. It is a Goog…

I think it will be bad for different reasons. Will Chrome not comply with the spec. Nope because the spec follows what the browsers actually do, and Chrome is the browsers. Will it have bugs that make the web unusable? Probably not. What makes it bad? The world's biggest ad company is in charge of it, so privacy is at risk.

As more members of WHATWG fork Chromium I think your right that the standard is more like: whatever the dominant fork (Chrome) does.

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Post by alwillis »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #271
sime2009 wrote: post #184

Regarding the topic of browser mono-cultures, I was web developer in the post browser war era in the early 2000s where we had a dominant IE6 and a stagnant browser landscape. It was bad. Real bad. But I'm actually fairly positive about MS getting into the chromium landscape and back into the game. Let's face it MS had lost all of its influence in the browser world before dropping IE and making this move. It is a Goog…

I just wish they'd moved to Gecko instead of Chromium. It's not like Gecko is an inherently inferior engine by any stretch, and it would significantly bolster their marketshare so that developers actually have to test against it.

Even the guy who literally birthed Firefox (Brendan Eich) picked Chromium for Brave, his new browser.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Post by Inityx »

alwillis wrote: post #329
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #271

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I just wish they'd moved to Gecko instead of Chromium. It's not like Gecko is an inherently inferior engine by any stretch, and it would significantly bolster their marketshare so that developers actually have to test against it.

Even the guy who literally birthed Firefox (Brendan Eich) picked Chromium for Brave, his new browser.

Yeah, but he also designed JavaScript, so...
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