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Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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Post by malachismith »

BrendanEich wrote: post #446
malachismith wrote: post #227

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Mozilla Corporation is NOT a non-profit.

But its defenders constantly say "Mozilla is a non-profit" and when pressed, note that Mozilla Foundation is the sole owner of Mozilla Corporation. You can't have it both ways: either it is subject to Foundation=good presumptions as defenders invoke, or it is not. If not, then its comp may not be excessive at the top, but it sure jumped in 2017 while market share dropped -- and anyway, if it is a for-profit, it needs…

It's clearly wrong to market yourself as a non-profit when you are a for-profit company.

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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Post by mylons »

sstangl wrote: post #376

I'm one of the 70. There were no signs that this was imminent, although Mozilla has been struggling financially for many years. I expected that it would happen eventually; I'm relatively well-prepared for it; and it's not too shocking. I did however expect that there would be some warning signs in the lead-up, but that was not the case. I was working on Cranelift, the WebAssembly compiler that is also a plausible fut…

sorry this happened to you.

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Post by api_or_ipa »

sushid wrote: post #425
Blake_Emigro wrote: post #411

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She used the sandwich feedback technique for a eulogy - an interesting approach. https://www.rightattitudes.com/2008/02/20/sandwich-feedback-...

Gross, is this actually a technique taught in management? Seems disingenuous and sounds like something a really bad manager would do.

It's taught in even the most basic teaching curriculum. I learned about it as a teenager learning to teach swimming. To be honest, it's nothing new or special, and I mean, I don't know where you're coming at with the snarky comment about management, but humans are human and sometimes _how you say something_ matters as much as _what you say_. Nobody likes taking criticism, so it helps blunt the blow, while still allowing for critical feedback to be communicated and heard.

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Post by TheGrassyKnoll »

Slashbot2 wrote: post #374

Well I dunno.,. maybe it was good.. ever since Windows 8 came out (which was a pile of fucking shit) I would say things have gotten worse.. Windows is complete garbage as far as actual desktop improvements. From Win98>Win2000>WinXP>Win7 it has been a slow but steady improvement in stability and features.. sure could have been better, but compared to Linux desktop distro's which none of them can barely even fucking ma…

I don't use Windows (linux), so couldn't say how great it is or not, but the shareholders are loving Satya Nadella. MSFT is up about 160% in the last two years.

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Post by corford »

shpeedy wrote: post #309
throwaway123x2 wrote: post #185

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It's crazy how much FF's marketshare has dropped. It's such a great browser.

Firefox eats memory. 4GB of memory is barely enough to run browser and show few tabs.

I have two FF windows open with a total of ~300 tabs and its currently consuming 2.1GB (Windows 10).

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Post by _nedR »

Blake_Emigro wrote: post #411
phonon wrote: post #282

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She also wrote this incredibly rude and grotesque obituary for Gervase Markham after he died of cancer (working for Mozilla until the end). You are welcome to disagree, but Gerv contributed just as much to Mozilla as Mitchell did. https://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2018/08/07/in-memoriam-gerva...

She used the sandwich feedback technique for a eulogy - an interesting approach. https://www.rightattitudes.com/2008/02/20/sandwich-feedback-...

She must believe in re-incarnation.

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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Post by BrendanEich »

dralley wrote: post #67
dman wrote: post #56

Brendan Eich has a helpful chart of Compensation of Highest paid executive at Mozilla vs Firefox market share over time. https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1217512049716035584/p...

I don't much care for Eich but that graph (as in, what it represents) is just shameful.

Remember, I'm the bad guy. Ignore this looting operation amid market share tanking, also do please ignore past board members tied to Epstein. It's all about me. :-/

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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Post by Thorentis »

eschaton wrote: post #239
Thorentis wrote: post #219

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Read more about his background and you'll see why. Cancel culture is definitely real. (There was a post here from WSJ the other day about it - wasn't great since it was more of a whinge, but there are some legitimate examples of "cancel culture" happening, and they are increasing in the tech industry). tl;dr he was fired for having conservative beliefs, and nobody in the valley would touch him. So he went a founded B…

Don’t sanitize it, he was fired for being anti-gay. That should make it a little clearer why funders won’t touch him (and many won’t touch his new work).

So being fired for holding a particular view is okay now? Regardless of your views, I'm uncomfortable with the idea of corporations having a de facto role in enforcing public morality, through who they chose to hire and fire. People okay with this have obviously learned nothing from the days where you could be fired for being gay. Other way around? Nothing wrong with it according to some people. This whole trend is worrying.

Having said that - corporations do have a right to hire and fire who they please. But it is important to at least acknowledge "cancel culture" as a legitimate and immature trend that is happening. Often the pressure to fire somebody comes from the outside, not from within.

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Post by bsder »

JohnFen wrote: post #475
bsder wrote: post #452

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Actually, given the current demographics of SXSW, that probably IS good marketing to potential customers. SXSW now costs quite a bit and is often a hipster corporate management perk. That sounds like a good demographic for Mozilla to market to. Lone gone are the days where SXSW was a bunch of grubby hippies listening to a bunch of crappy bands. Now it's a bunch of hipster drones listening to a bunch of crappy mainstr…

> That sounds like a good demographic for Mozilla to market to. Why does that sound like a good demographic? Sure, cover that group, but not at the expense of the much, much larger demographic of "ordinary people".

That demographic can cut you checks with 7 digits or more.

"Ordinary people" earn you nothing unless you vacuum up their personal information.

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Post by pier25 »

multiplegeorges wrote: post #379
pier25 wrote: post #255

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Hmm I don't know. I switched to FF 4 months ago and while the engine and dev tools are great, it's simply not as polished as the competition. For example just look at the alert popups[0], or the non native contextual menus, or the video pop icon. The UI is full of little quirks like that. The tab bar is by far the ugliest one of all current browsers, at least on macOS. It also misses important features such as multil…

I found a UX quirk that bothered me. I documented it, proposed a solution with my own justifications for why it would be better, and submitted a bug report. Feedback from Moz, the work done on it, the patches created, and the release plan for it were all done in the open and I could track it. The change I suggested was implemented and is now out. Be the change you want to see... only Firefox/Mozilla would do this in…

> Opened 19 years ago

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69687

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