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in 2018, mozilla had 368 million USD in assets: 2018 financials: https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-fdn-201... wow, 2.5 million for the executive chair of Mozilla in 2018. is that person really bringing 2.5 millions dollar worth of value to the company. this is in addition to the 2.x million from the year before. 10s of million exfiltrated out of a non-profit by one person over the last few years. n…

Playing devil's advocate, if you are able to close a deal that is bringing more than 2.5 million a year, then you are definitely worth that amount.

Under that premise the .org sale was good for everyone because they managed to make a deal.

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>is that person really bringing 2.5 millions dollar worth of value to the company Change the number and this will apply to most CEOs. https://www.glassdoor.com/research/ceo-pay-ratio/ According to these numbers, CEOs work 204 times as hard as regular employees.

> CEOs work 204 times as hard as regular employees That's an interesting (and ridiculous) way to spin the numbers. One doesn't have to work x times harder to bring x times more value to a company.

So you're saying success isn't a function of how hard you work?

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The person we're talking about is Mitchell Baker, who has spent over 20 years contributing to Mozilla, including years as a volunteer. She has been on Time's 100 most influential people list. She has directly authored many foundational pieces of Mozilla and (arguably) the internet. She is the founding CEO of the Mozilla Corporation, which pays her paycheck from its ~$500M in revenue. Mozilla Corp is the highly-profit…

>She has directly authored many foundational pieces of Mozilla and (arguably) the internet. This statement is a fabrication. She was trained and worked as a lawyer. She went to Berkeley, not to study computer science or electrical engineering, but to study law. She graduated and went to a San Francisco law firm that specialized in intellectual property and had many clients in Silicon Valley. She eventually left and w…

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Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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Sounds like a pretty clueless layoff, I guess I expected better from Mozilla than usual corporate derp. If there was truly no dead weight, surely the management could have scaled back their own comp for misdirecting the company? Very few people understand what it means to be a leader in corporate world.

How much could they have scaled backed their comp to save 70 jobs?

Is 70x a strange multiple for an executive to make? I’m sure I’ve heard stories of more.

That said, I doubt the executives at Mozilla make north of 7M

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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I'm one of the 70. There were no signs that this was imminent, although Mozilla has been struggling financially for many years. I expected that it would happen eventually; I'm relatively well-prepared for it; and it's not too shocking. I did however expect that there would be some warning signs in the lead-up, but that was not the case. I was working on Cranelift, the WebAssembly compiler that is also a plausible fut…

Could you be a match for https://eos.io/news/eos-virtual-machine-a-high-performance-b... ?

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Honestly calling BS. Just writing a javascript runtime alone isn't just a "handful of engineers." WebGL stack? WebRTC? Layout engine/compositor? Notifications? You're kidding me, there is no small team in the world that could ship a browser stack end to end.

> Just writing a javascript runtime alone isn't just a "handful of engineers." But it is. You can verify it yourself: https://github.com/WebKit/webkit/commits/master/Source/JavaS... > You're kidding me, there is no small team in the world that could ship a browser stack end to end. https://webkit.org/team/ , ⌘F "Apple". Balance the people on that list who have left or are assigned to work on something else with those…

But webkit is abandonware that is rotting.

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That's appalling. How did that make people still working at Mozilla feel? I can't imagine working under somebody like that.

It seems that there was some subsection of Mozilla employees who were offended by Gerv's views and thus publicly ambivalent, though undoubtedly privately relieved, to hear of his passing. [0] While that doesn't excuse the "obit" Baker posted, I'm sure it had some effect on her thought process. Common decency is apparently not valued above political homogeneity in the tech industry. [0] http://archive.today/2020.01.16…

>Common decency is apparently not valued above political homogeneity in the tech industry.

You are subtly advocating for exactly the thing you are snarkly accusing the entire tech industry of.

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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post #436

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Sounds like a pretty clueless layoff, I guess I expected better from Mozilla than usual corporate derp. If there was truly no dead weight, surely the management could have scaled back their own comp for misdirecting the company? Very few people understand what it means to be a leader in corporate world.

How much could they have scaled backed their comp to save 70 jobs?

Mozilla has way too many VP and above employees that are useless (check what the once VP engineering, then interim CTO, then fellow is actually doing for instance). They should let go a few, but as far as I know, none has been fired. Gotta keep getting twice the bonus percentage as regular ICs...

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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The person we're talking about is Mitchell Baker, who has spent over 20 years contributing to Mozilla, including years as a volunteer. She has been on Time's 100 most influential people list. She has directly authored many foundational pieces of Mozilla and (arguably) the internet. She is the founding CEO of the Mozilla Corporation, which pays her paycheck from its ~$500M in revenue. Mozilla Corp is the highly-profit…

What "foundational pieces of Mozilla and (arguably) the Internet" did Mitchell Baker "directly author"? If you make a claim like that, you need to provide some evidence or citation to back it up.

Were you unable to find any supporting evidence in a preliminary research context on this subject?

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>She has directly authored many foundational pieces of Mozilla and (arguably) the internet. This statement is a fabrication. She was trained and worked as a lawyer. She went to Berkeley, not to study computer science or electrical engineering, but to study law. She graduated and went to a San Francisco law firm that specialized in intellectual property and had many clients in Silicon Valley. She eventually left and w…

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but you do need one to get a decent paying job at FAANG
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