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Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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>There's hundreds of other engineers that can probably do as good of a job or better than him. Says only someone who hasn't seen what happens when the average IC is forced into management.

IC? (Merriam-webster doesn't come up with anything useful and I only know it as integrated circuit or intercity train)

Individual Contributor

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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I'm not sure why they don't largely sack half their marketing budget and concentrate on community outreach from the developer side... that's how they grew in the first place. I'm also surprised they haven't tried to create commercial mail and communications products. Thunderbird used to be one of the best options out there, and they could easily spin this off into a SaaS and self-host product on the server component.…

I see a big gap in the market when it comes to self-hosted Office 365 or G Suite alternatives. Microsoft Exchange is a beast both in terms of complexity as well as licensing cost, and I think most small/medium orgs don't actually need the complexity which is why they're going towards G Suite which is a less complex product to manage. I can see them succeeding with an open-core enterprise e-mail & calendar solution wh…

If this was easy to do, Office 365 and GSuite wouldn't have a lock on the market.

IBM can't even be bothered to try anymore - they sold off the carcass of Lotus a while back.

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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post #56

Brendan Eich has a helpful chart of Compensation of Highest paid executive at Mozilla vs Firefox market share over time. https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1217512049716035584/p...

It's crazy how much FF's marketshare has dropped. It's such a great browser.

Hmm I don't know. I switched to FF 4 months ago and while the engine and dev tools are great, it's simply not as polished as the competition.

For example just look at the alert popups[0], or the non native contextual menus, or the video pop icon. The UI is full of little quirks like that. The tab bar is by far the ugliest one of all current browsers, at least on macOS.

It also misses important features such as multilingual spell checking. For people writing in multiple languages it's a real PITA. I know this functionality can be added with an extension but it slows down FF too much IMO.

[0] https://imgur.com/lODjWSm

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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post #255

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It's crazy how much FF's marketshare has dropped. It's such a great browser.

Hmm I don't know. I switched to FF 4 months ago and while the engine and dev tools are great, it's simply not as polished as the competition. For example just look at the alert popups[0], or the non native contextual menus, or the video pop icon. The UI is full of little quirks like that. The tab bar is by far the ugliest one of all current browsers, at least on macOS. It also misses important features such as multil…

I think that alert's design is actually a _feature_. Safari made a similar change a while back not make the alerts look like system UI, to prevent phishing and similar attacks.

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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> BSD licensed browser can become a closed source browser with just a hand waive. So can a Mozilla licensed browser, the licenses are very similar. > Chrome has 80% share and introduces a new feature that works only in chrome (let's say, some DRM to watch YouTube videos) This already exists, it's called Widevine and browsers download it as a binary blob. This is also a different argument, Chrome vs Chromium. If there…

> So can a Mozilla licensed browser, the licenses are very similar. So, you were talking about not understanding why a mono-culture is bad. So your license argument here means you don't understand the parent. "BSD licensed browser can become a closed source browser with just a hand waive." This means that once FF is no more, what's stopping Google from slowing closing off even more parts of the browser to just Chrome…

> once FF is no more, what's stopping Google from slowing closing off even more parts of the browser to just Chrome?

Nothing is stopping. In fact, they already do that with Android. Starting with version 5, AOSP barely improves, but they add more and more and more proprietary APIs like Firebase, severely limit background apps, pushing developers to use proprietary push notifications, with each release more and more functions are tied to Google Play Services. [0]

[0]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on...

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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post #200

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>There's hundreds of other engineers that can probably do as good of a job or better than him. Says only someone who hasn't seen what happens when the average IC is forced into management.

IC? (Merriam-webster doesn't come up with anything useful and I only know it as integrated circuit or intercity train)

It's corporate-speak: Individual Contributor (aka not management).

Re: Mozilla lays off 70

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post #56

Brendan Eich has a helpful chart of Compensation of Highest paid executive at Mozilla vs Firefox market share over time. https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1217512049716035584/p...

It's crazy how much FF's marketshare has dropped. It's such a great browser.

given Mozillas funding and the fact that most users don't care about browser marketing (except for sneaky performance "tricks" or Google's "want some more speed"-in your face mechanism) I really think, they should focus on the core (e.g. building a browser) and just leave politics (e.g. "safe-sync", "better media integration" - e.g. pocket) out of it completely... And yeah, I'd be more than happy to subscribe to my browser-vendor at this point if this means freedom or not. But not if I look at what Mozilla (and wikipedia) which are raking in money from corporate shills and still want my money to develop their "business" (which is very much specified and as a not-for-profit I don't see the need to "expand")
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