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Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Cynical thought: in no way am I claiming this was the only reason for Microsoft choosing Blink, but it’s probably easier to find and replace Google analytics APIs with Microsoft endpoints than it is to add them into a code base after the fact.

Can you link to a Google Analytics API call in Chromium? It's OSS. Edit: Chromium connects to Google servers to update extensions and for captive portal detection. Firefox does pretty much the same.

Search for UMA metrics.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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It doesn't have to make it worse, just not make it better. Almost no one ever says "I love using such-and-such a website, the adverts on the side are just so relevant".

When I'm looking for something , relevant ads are great. Ads that were relevant to something I was looking for a month ago? Not so much.

If I'm looking for something I want to read trusted reviews of it, not ads.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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On MacOS it requires admin privilege to install. I am done with that after all the crap that previous software with admin rights installed. I cleaned it up and swore I would not install anything that required admin rights again - for my own security and peace of mind. What does it need admin rights for?

also requires 10.12 or above

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Curious, why would targeted ads make the user experience worse? (putting privacy aside)

Targeted ads degrade user experiences for me because it's a reminder that someone or something that I don't know, knows about me. It's as if a stranger came up to you on the street, knew what brand of toilet paper you used at home, and asked if you wanted to buy more because you're almost out. Naturally you would wonder how this stranger knows these facts about you - do they snoop in your trash? Do they observe you i…

You say "someone or something," and to me, that's a pretty big difference.

I don't care if things know about me. If there is an actual human being who is directly looking at me, associating it with my face, etc, that is a lot more bothersome than some machine that is doing that.

I understand that many people here don't make that distinction. I do care about privacy in some ways, but when you I "arguably should" find machines invading my privacy to repulsive, I guess I have to thank you for putting the word "arguably" in there, because I would argue that. It just doesn't bother me, and I am happier for not having one more thing to be bothered by.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Google has for its entire history had strong ties to building a developer community. For instance Google Summer of Code [0] and here's a list of Google APIs with 179 current APIs [1]. [0] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ [1] https://developers.google.com/apis-explorer

Conveniently leaving out the hundreds of times that Google has randomly terminated APIs or entire products with minimal if any forewarning, or reduced API functionality or pricing without forewarning, and the complete and utter lack of support [edit] Google provides to developers who don't already have their own twitter following.

I like the idea of Google Developer Supper.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Installed it on my home PC and work PC.

I like it. Customised the front page with some useful links and turned off the news. Real serene image, non-distracting new page.

I like the interface overall and it has ublock origin, basically the one extension that is a must.

This will be big for corporations too. Users wont need to have Google Chrome deployed anymore to use certain web apps.

Ill use it as a secondary browser to Firefox when I need a Chromium based browser, as this is already installed in Windows 10 soon.

Best browser for Netflix too. I am using the "Add website to app" function for it already, or just browse to it.

Old Edge was also really good for video performance and battery performance in general, hope this has that too.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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It will make me happy to be able to stop supporting ie11 at some point in the future. Sadly, it doesn’t appear that ie11 will have an end of life date as it’ll be supported as long as Windows 10 is and Windows 10 appears evergreen. Hopefully Microsoft will make edge the default browser at some point.

You should see IE11 usage drop significantly now as big corporates adopt Edge as the default. Edge can seamlessly switch over to the IE11 rendering engine for predetermined lists of legacy sites, so there's no reason for corporates to force IE11 as the default browser any more.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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It will make me happy to be able to stop supporting ie11 at some point in the future. Sadly, it doesn’t appear that ie11 will have an end of life date as it’ll be supported as long as Windows 10 is and Windows 10 appears evergreen. Hopefully Microsoft will make edge the default browser at some point.

> Hopefully Microsoft will make edge the default browser at some point.

If you mean over IE11, that's probably a (dumb, unhealthy) Group Policy decision of your Enterprise as Edge has been the default browser in Windows 10 since launch.

If you mean Edgmium (New Edge) over Edge Classic, it already replaces Edge Classic (entirely) when you install it, and there's a slow rollout through Windows Update already happening, with an attempt to converge on everyone having Edgmium sometime this year and Edge Classic dying a final, sad death (RIP, good friend, you served some of us well). They say fresh installs of "Windows 10X" the hyped dual screen build of Windows will only have Edgmium, and that'll likely make its way into other Windows 10 images over time.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Installed it on my home PC and work PC. I like it. Customised the front page with some useful links and turned off the news. Real serene image, non-distracting new page. I like the interface overall and it has ublock origin, basically the one extension that is a must. This will be big for corporations too. Users wont need to have Google Chrome deployed anymore to use certain web apps. Ill use it as a secondary browse…

Unlock origin will soon be se verily nerfed though, which is a pity.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Wonder why... Microsoft: developers, developers, developers, developers! Google: advertisers, advertisers, advertisers, advertisers!

And yet when I open Edge, I get a million ads for crappy tabloid news websites thrust in my face, while when I open Chrome I don't see any ads.

I just setup Edge a few minutes ago. There are two options "Inspirational" and "Focused" that show no crappy tabloid news websites and one that does - I didn't pick that one :)

Also, happy to report that 1password has an extension for Edge as well - that's awesome.

Only thing I'm missing is a dark mode extension. I don't trust the somewhat sketchy ones that I see so far on the store.

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