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Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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Does anyone know what the UI of Edge is written in? Since it runs on Mac as well, have they ported some of the .Net UI frameworks to Mac or is it native all the way?

Edge (and Chromium) both use a custom C++ UI framework. Chrome wrote the framework to be cross-platform, so Edge was able to take advantage of that to deliver the macOS version. AFAIK there's no WinUI XAML components being used.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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post #35

I'm glad to see this, and I hope it's a strong competitor. Stronger competition pushes everyone and we end up with better results as users. That said, browser debates often come off like the Nintendo versus Sega arguments I remember as a kid. It's funny how people become married to one.

We have effectively lost a competitor. Microsoft is now contributing to Chrome development. The best long-term outcome for the web would arguably to have been for Microsoft to put more resources into their in-house EdgeHTML browser instead of throwing it out and reskinning Chrome.

Microsoft is now contributing to Chrome development. And now everybody can benefit from their hard work. But somehow it's better for them to duplicate work for their 1% marketshare?

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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post #84

So as somewhat of an outsider to the 'web game' as far as most people here (at HN) are concerned, but a relatively aware patron of web browsing software, I'll add my thoughts on the 'web browser' game... I feel like most people's browser of choice is chosen for reasons specific to their needs. For example: I think that Firefox gives me a bit of additional privacy. I think that Safari gives me that additional privacy…

"The thing" for Edge is likely going to be the integration with rest of Microsoft ecosystem. Management tools, security tools, authentication etc. Of course these things matter mainly for organizations, who are otherwise running Microsoft stuff.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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post #45
post #33

For some reason it had decided that I am Italian. Took me a while to decipher and bring it back to English

It gave me the page in english, but the license agreement in Russian.

So you're saying that if the license was in English you would have read it?

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly Chromium is WAYYYY easier to development on than Firefox. Had Mozilla spent effort making the base of it as a framework in the same way Chromium is, they may have considered it. There is a reason why Electron, QT etc use Chromium.

I was just thinking, "Why isn't there an Electron for Firefox?"

I have a feeling this might change once Firefox is either entirely written in Rust, or mostly written in Rust.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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post #89

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I wish they had thrown in with helping Firefox instead of handing even more web influence over to Google. A percentage of what Microsoft spent on EdgeHTML contributed to the Firefox project—ideally as employee time—would go a long way, along with the counterbalance of putting the Firefox engine and code base front and center of more Windows users.

Interesting, I thought FF being a XUL app should've been easier to customize.

I don't think FF is using XUL anymore or at least not as much as they used to.

Even their docs for XUL shows it all as archived:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Archive/Mozilla/XUL...

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

#117

Of all the times I wish MS had written their own browser, this would be the first not in jest. The web is not open if only 2 orgs can hope to stay functional displaying it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EdgeHTML

They already did that years ago.

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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post #84

So as somewhat of an outsider to the 'web game' as far as most people here (at HN) are concerned, but a relatively aware patron of web browsing software, I'll add my thoughts on the 'web browser' game... I feel like most people's browser of choice is chosen for reasons specific to their needs. For example: I think that Firefox gives me a bit of additional privacy. I think that Safari gives me that additional privacy…

Sometimes I'm forced to use it when administrating a O365 tenant. That's something I guess

Re: The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious, why would targeted ads make the user experience worse? (putting privacy aside)

It doesn't have to make it worse, just not make it better. Almost no one ever says "I love using such-and-such a website, the adverts on the side are just so relevant".

When I'm looking for something, relevant ads are great. Ads that were relevant to something I was looking for a month ago? Not so much.
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