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Re: Don't talk to the police

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I remind myself that I don't have to talk to the police every few months. (Need to pre-wire it so I don't flounder when under duress.) One thing you have to be careful about: you may end up doing yourself more damage by pleading the fifth when it isn't necessary. "No officer, I understand this is a routine traffic stop, but I'm pulling out the fifth and am not responding to your queries."

You don't have to plead the 5th to not answer questions. If you are not under arrest then you don't have to say anything. If you are, then what you are using is your right to remain silent ala miranda.

The fifth amendment:

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

The relevant bit here is the part about being a witness against yourself. You can't remain silent when asked for identification, but you don't have to answer the cop when he asks you if you know how fast you were going. In that situation, you're pleading your 5th amendment right.

Re: Don't talk to the police

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So following this advice and the knowledge that police can lie to you in interrogation^Winterview (and not only there) I would do this:

1. tell the cop that you will exercise your 5th amendment. 2. tell the cop that you know that the police is allowed to lie to interviewee. 3. tell the cop that you will add the time wasted here to cost that will be billed to him or most likely sued for in counter claims court. 4. tell the cop "that by detaining me here further you agree to accept any and all such costs" 5. tell them it is their move.

do 3. and 4. if you got the guts if not do only the rest.

And to fill the silience whistle. (Preferbly the most annoying and catching tune you know).

Re: Don't talk to the police

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So following this advice and the knowledge that police can lie to you in interrogation^Winterview (and not only there) I would do this: 1. tell the cop that you will exercise your 5th amendment. 2. tell the cop that you know that the police is allowed to lie to interviewee. 3. tell the cop that you will add the time wasted here to cost that will be billed to him or most likely sued for in counter claims court. 4. tel…

If you watch part 2, the (ex?) cop points out that police specifically are allowed to lie during interrogations.

I think the best thing to do would be to just calmly, firmly and repeatedly ask for a lawyer.

Re: Don't talk to the police

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Disagree. The police interviews are designed to get people to say things that will get them convicted. This is a hackable system -- a social hack, but a hack nonetheless. (It might also be argued that the real hack is the police interviews where they trick people into giving up their 5th amendment rights.) Also, the video is extremely interesting in its own right.

I dissagree. This is more news suited for reddit.

I'd sooner quit using the Internet altogether than scour the main Reddit or Digg page for things to read.

Re: Don't talk to the police

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dissagree. This is more news suited for reddit.

I'd sooner quit using the Internet altogether than scour the main Reddit or Digg page for things to read.

Yes but if those articles come to Hacker News so you don't have to go to Reddit, why would you keep using HN?

The best way to know if something is off topic, and indeed the best reason not to post off topic stuff, is if you think the community will spend more time debating whether the article is on or off topic than the article itself.

Re: Don't talk to the police

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So following this advice and the knowledge that police can lie to you in interrogation^Winterview (and not only there) I would do this: 1. tell the cop that you will exercise your 5th amendment. 2. tell the cop that you know that the police is allowed to lie to interviewee. 3. tell the cop that you will add the time wasted here to cost that will be billed to him or most likely sued for in counter claims court. 4. tel…

I would suggest never being this obnoxious to someone who has power over you.
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