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That's how diesel works, off its own compression.
Yeah - I remember when I was a volunteer firefighter - if you parked a fire truck in an atmosphere that was filled with combustible gasses, the engine would not shut off. The trucks were equipped with some type of an emergency throw should that situation ever arise. We never had to use it in my time there.
What kind of data is my new car collecting?
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Tv's are simple though, just don't connect them to a network and they work fine.
I've heard allegations that some of the newer TVs will automatically scan for open networks in the background.
I saw some comments like this last time there a smart TV thread. However, none of the commenters were able to substantiate these allegations.
Re: What kind of data is my new car collecting?
#63> “There’s just massive amounts of data being collected, and if you want the service, you have to agree to it. And people do agree to it, and they have relatively little control over things,” Scassa says. I'm curious what this will do to the used car market in 10-15 years. Say the original owner consented to all this data tracking. They go to sell the car to buy a new one, and the 2nd owner does not agree to the trac…
Seems to me answering those questions will be part of a greater process to balance power and interests between manufacturers and consumers/users. E.g., Tesla already seems to try and decide the questions in the way manufacturers would likely have them, i.e. suppressing data transmission is tampering and the problem of car reselling doesn't apply as cars cannot be resold anymore without manufacturer involvement. I thi…
> ... cars cannot be resold anymore without manufacturer involvement.
This seems like a violation of long-standing consumer protection laws and precedents.
Re: What kind of data is my new car collecting?
#64Not too long ago I owned a motorcycle from the 70s. I realized at one point that it was probably EMP-proof: no fuel injection, no fuel pump, certainly no OBD anything, and a (literal) kickstarter. The most complicated thing in the wiring harness was the key cylinder and the relay for the turn signals and headlights. I miss that bike sometimes.
> I realized at one point that it was probably EMP-proof Different kind of bike, but I used to feel that way about my bicycles. However, sometime last year I was parking at the office and realised even that world is on its way out. The No-True-Scotsman actual cyclists have largely moved to electronic shifting and such, and the utility bikes are quickly moving to e-bikes.
Roadies are merely one tribe of scots. The Realest, Truest Scots are the grant peterson/jan heine/PBP types, who have (by and large) yet to accept that downtube shifters are replacable with barcons. >:)
Re: What kind of data is my new car collecting?
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The more technology is built into a car, the more obsolescence shall quickly devaluate it?
You would think so, but afaik there's almost no older smart-phones around (think 4-5 years-old) because they're expensive to repair, that is if you can repair them at all. That's why you don't see less-wealthy people commuting to their jobs in an early 2000s Mercedes S-Klass or in a VW Phaeton (even though they'd be able to purchase such vehicles at today's prices), but instead they use an older Honda or a Toyota or…
Smartphones aren't cars. Cars are much bigger, therefore easier to make [somewhat] modular. Furthermore, the recent hype with smartphones was smaller, thinner, and more glue.
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>I'm curious what this will do to the used car market in 10-15 years. Depends on LEO. If it is easier to deal with trackable cars, then untrackable cars will be hotter than black tinted windows and radar detectors. It already is, to some extent; why can I not gut my catalytic converter & change some programming so my car says the outputs are fine? Because the state wants me to get rid of my old functional car to supp…
> why can I not gut my catalytic converter & change some programming so my car says the outputs are fine? Because the state wants me to get rid of my old functional car to support the economy of newer more expensive vehicles. ...also probably to protect the environment?
You have to have an incredibly inefficient vehicle for manufacturing and shipping a new one to be an environmental positive...
Re: What kind of data is my new car collecting?
#67Not too long ago I owned a motorcycle from the 70s. I realized at one point that it was probably EMP-proof: no fuel injection, no fuel pump, certainly no OBD anything, and a (literal) kickstarter. The most complicated thing in the wiring harness was the key cylinder and the relay for the turn signals and headlights. I miss that bike sometimes.
Was the engine two-stroke?
Two cylinder, four stroke. Old Honda UJM with a small engine and fairly low compression ratio, so you could kick it over in one kick without breaking your ankle.
Re: What kind of data is my new car collecting?
#68Not too long ago I owned a motorcycle from the 70s. I realized at one point that it was probably EMP-proof: no fuel injection, no fuel pump, certainly no OBD anything, and a (literal) kickstarter. The most complicated thing in the wiring harness was the key cylinder and the relay for the turn signals and headlights. I miss that bike sometimes.
I love those motorcycles. Sometime back I wanted to build my own from parts. Started some research only to find out that some states (in the US) make it very difficult to register a custom built m/c. The assembly seemed easier in comparison.
If you plate the frame in vermont by mail, you're gtg.
Re: What kind of data is my new car collecting?
#69One thing that's interesting to me is, modern cars know (relatively accurately) whether you're speeding or not. They have GPS and a database of speed limits. Also depending on what's in the car, they may know who was driving it. How long before a speed safety campaign starts arguing that car manufacturers should be handing over information about people breaking the law in their cars to law enforcement...
The information is still not even remotely accurate enough for this to work without ridiculously high levels of false positives. An obvious example would be in Germany. The autobahn for example has sections that are unrestricted, but those same sections are 130kmh (or sometimes lower) if it's between certain times or raining or whatever. Half of the time my car interprets that as just being 130. Outside of that; ther…
I guess that depends on country. For example the UK has no public road (that I'm aware of) where a speed of higher than 70mph is allowed, so that would be an easy initial rule.
Where there are dynamic speed limits in place, it would be plausible to report back possibles (car location and speed) which could then be checked against a central database which was more accurate.
I'm not suggesting that such a system is a good idea, but that I can see car safety campaigners looking on it as the next step in their campaigns...
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#70> A car camera for Affectiva, a company that is developing technology for measuring driver emotions, in Boston, on Oct. 6, 2018. No. Just no. Why would anyone allow collecting this kind of information? There is no way it can't (so, won't) be used against you. Everyone gets angry from time to time.
There is also no way this information is 100% accurate at all times. Emotional recognition is inherently probabilistic -- there will be false positives and false negatives, no matter how good the heuristic is. In the end, it'll be you who has to prove that you were in an emotional stable state, and not the algorithm that gets scrutinized.
Emotional recognition is pure fraud, with zero scientific basis. Snake oil is a big part of the current AI product matrix.