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Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI [video]

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Re: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI [video]

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Post by AlanTuring »

jcims wrote: post #72
jon_tau wrote: post #16

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I find that Lex often side-steps technical depth and wanders into the philosophical side of things. He has the opportunity to ask diving questions but he simply scratches the surface with nearly every guest. It's not entirely his fault, he's under time constraints but I'd hope for more intellectual stimulation. That said, I do appreciate his efforts and he seems like a genuinely nice fella.

I don’t know. He could ask Jeremy Howard about the architecture of fast ai and we’d get some interesting answer that becomes dated and irrelevant very quickly. But when he asks what Jeremy’s favorite programming language is and Jeremy comes back with Microsoft flippin Access, you get a view into Jeremy’s commitment to making software accessible to the masses. Or when Elon pauses like Elon does and asks the AGI what’s…

Thank you. Exactly! I ask these questions in hope to inspire the rare gems of brilliance. Sometimes those come from deep technical questions and sometimes from silly philosophical questions. Both have potential. I fail often with striking the right balance, but hopefully less and less over time.

Re: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI [video]

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Post by alexanderthe- »

Lex’s podcast is my new favorite. I’m not a Computer Scientist, so I thoroughly enjoy hearing him ask Philosophical questions to these great minds and having them answer with the humble nature of mere mortals... which of course, they are. Keep up the good work Lex, I first heard you on Rogan’s podcast, you are bringing something really unique to the world and I am sure we will all be better for it.

Re: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI [video]

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Post by AlanTuring »

laughingman2 wrote: post #81

Lex, you're doing an amazing job. The level of commitment and hard work you put in to make this podcast is incredible. On the technical depth side criticism you're getting, I would say the one with Ian Goodfellow had optimal balance. And don't take destructive criticism about bad attitude or tone etc by some commentors . For someone introverted it's already draining to put yourself in front of a camera ...

Thank you sincerely for the kind words and for understanding the toughness of getting in front of the camera as an introvert. The criticism on top of that is TOUGH to take, but in moderation it helps long-term. With this HN thread, I told myself I'll meditate on critical advice, consider action items to take in order to improve, and then move forward letting the more personal destructive (as you say) criticism fade from memory. That last part is easier said than done, but that's life.

Re: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI [video]

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Post by thegabriele »

Lex, amazing work with your podcast.

If someone is willing to dig deeeper into technical stuffs of any of your guests, internet is full of resources but there's no way to find the personal insights one could get from the podcast.

I do really hope to see Robert Sapolsky and Douglas Hofstadter sooner or later.

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Post by DSingularity »

AlanTuring wrote: post #88
jonpon wrote: post #80

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While I definitely understand where you are coming from, I think Lex's style can grow on you. My advice would be to ask shorter questions, sometimes Lex you try to explain what you mean. I would just drop the question and let the other person start talking instead of you trying to fill the silence. Also I do really enjoy the questions about meaning of life (maybe more discussions on free will would be great too). In…

Lex here. The amount of positive and thoughtful comments here is humbling. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. Here are things I didn't realize is the role of the interviewer (my role) but I now know they are: 1. Push towards depth, because not all people go there naturally themselves. 2. Ask for clarifications if I don't understand something. This can make me sound stupid, but it's a worthy sacrifice. I will alw…

Sure, keep improving as much as you can. Just take care not to lose what distinguishes your podcast/style in the process!

Re: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI [video]

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Post by krick »

scottlocklin wrote: post #56
krick wrote: post #37

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I've heard something similar here on HN before (still didn't read the book myself), and what baffles me: wasn't he awarded the Nobel Prize for that work? Are those just political bullshit nowdays as well, like Oscars?

Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences (in memoriam of Alfred Nobel); not The Nobel Prize. Economics is mostly a set of shaggy dog stories in service of ideology, rather than a branch of legitimate scientific inquiry. I mean Paul Krugman won the same prize; he appears to be have a Brier score of 1 on his predictions.

Etymology and history aside, important quote from Wikipedia is:

> it is administered and referred to along with the Nobel Prizes by the Nobel Foundation

So, for all intents and purposes it kinda is "the Nobel Prize in Economics". If they don't give a fuck about legitimacy of it, I don't see why they would care for the rest of "Nobel Prizes".

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Post by scottlocklin »

krick wrote: post #98
scottlocklin wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences (in memoriam of Alfred Nobel); not The Nobel Prize. Economics is mostly a set of shaggy dog stories in service of ideology, rather than a branch of legitimate scientific inquiry. I mean Paul Krugman won the same prize; he appears to be have a Brier score of 1 on his predictions.

Etymology and history aside, important quote from Wikipedia is: > it is administered and referred to along with the Nobel Prizes by the Nobel Foundation So, for all intents and purposes it kinda is "the Nobel Prize in Economics". If they don't give a fuck about legitimacy of it, I don't see why they would care for the rest of "Nobel Prizes".

No, it really isn't "the Nobel Prize in Economics" which is why it has a different name, and the Nobel family want to get rid of it. It should be emphasized that it is a nonsense Nobel and economics a nonsense subject every time it is brought up.

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Post by kashyapc »

scottlocklin wrote: post #5
mochomocha wrote: post #2

The few times I've tried to read Kahneman's book I must admit that I stopped pretty early. I found his writing style too authoritative, without presenting much evidence for the theories he lays out.

And you're well served with this response, as the actual work he did is basically not reproducible. No matter how many best selling books made into movies; it's still bullshit. https://replicationindex.com/category/thinking-fast-and-slow... https://slate.com/technology/2016/12/kahneman-and-tversky-re... https://jasoncollins.blog/2016/06/29/re-reading-kahnemans-th... I read it on advice of a good pal, and it sure seem…

You are making a sweeping generalization of the entire book.

Bear in mind: As has been repeatedly pointed out, it is only the priming-related chapter (called 'The Associative Machine' in the book) that put "too much faith in under-powered studies". Not the entire book!

The book is a synthesis of forty years of Kahneman's research and his collaboration with his late colleague, Tversky. A wide range of topics are covered; and it still absolutely merits reading. Patiently dive into the book and make up your mind.

(And yes, a v2 of this book definitely is worth it, given the "authority" of the Nobel Memorial Prize.)

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