While this explicit cancel culture has been slow to arrive, this is exactly the kind of traditionally left leaning activism which has gradually come to infest almost all of academia (and to a lesser but growing extent, industry). The result is an extremely strong, emergent cultural pressure against certain results and certain questions, which has been holding back a wide range of fields and ensuring pursuit of severe…
>I'm not suggesting choosing between left and right, only pointing out that the bias is pervasive and undeniable. Can you point to specific examples of this where the science is actually robust and well documented but has somehow been blocked from being published or otherwise stopped due to this pervasive bias?
'Cancel Culture' Comes to Science?
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Re: 'Cancel Culture' Comes to Science?
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
In a couple of hundred years we burned millions or billions of years worth of stored energy. And to clean-up that mess you need far more energy than what it took to produce the mess in the first place. That would be true if the only way to remove CO2 from the atmosphere were to run "combustion in reverse" to turn carbon dioxide back into hydrocarbons. That is not the only way, though. Enhanced silicate weathering is…
In my research of the domain I did come across this. It is one of the scariest proposals out there. These people risk causing irreversible damage to the oceans and all life within them. It's hubris to think we can do something like that and actually control it at a planetary scale. Also, refer back to my questions about the energy and resources required to do this, to do anything. While you are right in that the proc…
Enhanced silicate weathering is a way to draw down atmospheric CO2 with less energy than went into creating the problem. Still, perhaps it will never be deployed on a large scale if people find the proposal too scary.
That's one of the most depressing things about curbing climate change. There are a number of changes that we could have implemented to prevent the problem from getting as bad as it is now. But all of them scared enough people that they didn't go forward on a scale that was large enough, fast enough. That could be fear of physical safety (opposition to nuclear power), fear of unemployment (coal miners against cleaner power sources), fear of lost profits (businesses against carbon taxes)...
Since the scale of the problem is vast, the scope and scale of any actual solutions will be vast as well.
Re: 'Cancel Culture' Comes to Science?
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about a correlation between IQ and race. It seems that no one will touch the subject out of fear the it would end their career.
What's the use about a study on _correlation_ between these two things? You could also have a study on correlation between IQ and poverty, IQ and access to education... Not to mention, what's the point of IQ anyway? Maybe no one is picking up the subject because it would be a waste of time?
Or, we can just accept that there are differences in IQ which should lead to differences in test scores and normalize correctly. That would be useful. It would not put teachers into impossible situations. We would not be tying teacher pay to impossible to achieve goals.
But no, we can't honestly approach this subject and must constantly contort everything because honest baselines and metrics would be a "waste of time" over the unrealistic and impossible to obtain outcomes.
Same with incarceration rates, and some other group differences. Oh, wouldn't you like to know which group differences are biological and which are due to the shared environment, so that we know which interventions have a chance of working and which don't? No, we can't know that, as obtaining this information would be a waste of time. Honesty would also stop enormous wastes of human capital being currently spent on simultaneously trying to cover up differences in outcomes as well as punishing people arbitrarily when they notice said differences.
Re: 'Cancel Culture' Comes to Science?
#104While this explicit cancel culture has been slow to arrive, this is exactly the kind of traditionally left leaning activism which has gradually come to infest almost all of academia (and to a lesser but growing extent, industry). The result is an extremely strong, emergent cultural pressure against certain results and certain questions, which has been holding back a wide range of fields and ensuring pursuit of severe…
>I'm not suggesting choosing between left and right, only pointing out that the bias is pervasive and undeniable. Can you point to specific examples of this where the science is actually robust and well documented but has somehow been blocked from being published or otherwise stopped due to this pervasive bias?
You don't have to block science, if you can block the scientist.
Also take into account this is an official, open requirement. For something like that to manifest, it has to be preceded by a lot of bias.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
You’re asking people to prove a negative, and also assuming that there’s no chilling effect as people learn that certain topics are not a good idea if you want a career. The premier example of robust, well documented science with vociferous opposition has to be intelligence. Besides scholars with a fiercer attachment to their politics than the truth like Gould you also have introductory psychology textbooks that go o…
Hell, look at the insane , wholly unscientific public crucification of James Watson for commenting, totally reasonably, on this very subject. Stripped of a Nobel prize for suggesting that two and two may equal four. Find me one credible media outlet which even questioned such treatment! Edit: sorry, I misread a headline about him losing the prize, it read stripped of "honors". Point still stands.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I'm not suggesting choosing between left and right, only pointing out that the bias is pervasive and undeniable. Can you point to specific examples of this where the science is actually robust and well documented but has somehow been blocked from being published or otherwise stopped due to this pervasive bias?
How about a correlation between IQ and race. It seems that no one will touch the subject out of fear the it would end their career.
There are people looking for genes influencing intelligence, which is a more practical thing to look for.
Re: 'Cancel Culture' Comes to Science?
#107> " By Peter W. Wood" > " Mr. Wood is president of the National Association of Scholars. " Of course the person being "cancelled" would write an opinion piece on "cancel culture". One person criticised his event on twitter and he wrote an opinion piece on WSJ about how he's being persecuted. This seems incredibly childish to me. Especially considering the original tweet* got under 100 retweets and about 130 likes. Ho…
Opinion piece author, an anthropology PhD holder, has been pushing climate change denialism and attacking individual scientists via his NAS organization since 2009. He did the same thing to another scientist in 2011[1]. The publications he lists on the Federalist Society make his other agendas very clear. And yes, this is plain as day advertising and deception. [1]: https://www.desmogblog.com/sites/beta.desmogblog.co…
The paper, along with some really basic googling, raises a big red flag over NAS's impartiality. Namely that:
* NAS was founded by a conservative
* Its president is conservative
* Its funders are conservative
* Its board is full of conservatives
* It frequently uses conservative (arguably far-right) catchphrases like "defending western civilization"
* Often pushes conservative viewpoints such as climate scepticism
* Other conservative organisations call NAS conservative
Yet despite all that NAS, or at least Peter W Wood, consistently claim they are not a conservative organisation.
This is completely absurd. Definitely an advert and no sane person should trust anything that Wood is saying here.
Re: 'Cancel Culture' Comes to Science?
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
You’re asking people to prove a negative, and also assuming that there’s no chilling effect as people learn that certain topics are not a good idea if you want a career. The premier example of robust, well documented science with vociferous opposition has to be intelligence. Besides scholars with a fiercer attachment to their politics than the truth like Gould you also have introductory psychology textbooks that go o…
Hell, look at the insane , wholly unscientific public crucification of James Watson for commenting, totally reasonably, on this very subject. Stripped of a Nobel prize for suggesting that two and two may equal four. Find me one credible media outlet which even questioned such treatment! Edit: sorry, I misread a headline about him losing the prize, it read stripped of "honors". Point still stands.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
This guy's Twitter thread doesn't seem like a great defense, because he doesn't make any specific scientific claims. It's all just ad-hominem that this org are "climate deniers." More troubling is his claim that they are "weaponizing" reproducibility against climate change. Doesn't that raise a red flag? If you're worried that reproducibility poses a problem for something, doesn't that mean you might just a little bi…
> This guy's Twitter thread doesn't seem like a great defense, because he doesn't make any specific scientific claims. No one is hiding scientific claims about climate change. It wouldn't be difficult to list scientific claims, but that's not his point. He is complaining that this organization is misrepresenting itself and the nature of its event in order to trick people into attending or appearing to support somethi…
Re: 'Cancel Culture' Comes to Science?
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about a correlation between IQ and race. It seems that no one will touch the subject out of fear the it would end their career.
What's the use about a study on _correlation_ between these two things? You could also have a study on correlation between IQ and poverty, IQ and access to education... Not to mention, what's the point of IQ anyway? Maybe no one is picking up the subject because it would be a waste of time?