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Please make your products work with URLs
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Re: Please make your products work with URLs
#132> Here is my plea: when you build hardware/software, please make it support the primitive, simple case. Says a webpage that is just a couple empty divs w/o JS, and, with JS, is 4 hyperlinks, a few paragraphs of text, and absolutley nothing (aside from google-analytics) that ever needed any JS in the first place, let alone 5 or 6 files' worth of it. But, I think that conflict really speaks to the funamental issue, her…
As much as HN wants to whine about it, the truth is that Javascript is a primitive, basic, use case of the internet.
Re: Please make your products work with URLs
#133Please make your stuff work without JavaScript. This is a simple text-only web page (in courier new ffs) and it refuses to load with JavaScript disabled. There is no valid reason for this.
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Re: Please make your products work with URLs
#134I hate smart TVs with a burning passion. They accomplish literally the bare minimum to keep people happy and sometimes not even that. Samsung’s Tizen OS is the most genuinely frustrating experience I’ve had with a consumer device outside of printing. Advertisements on my home screen that can’t be disabled, dubious privacy, bugs that require me to reboot my TV, and of course security so bad that they recommend install…
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Re: Please make your products work with URLs
#135I hate smart TVs with a burning passion. They accomplish literally the bare minimum to keep people happy and sometimes not even that. Samsung’s Tizen OS is the most genuinely frustrating experience I’ve had with a consumer device outside of printing. Advertisements on my home screen that can’t be disabled, dubious privacy, bugs that require me to reboot my TV, and of course security so bad that they recommend install…
While I agree, and know of all the evil repercussions of smart TVs, Samsung's software is terrible but LG's is pretty good, because I believe it's just WebOS from Palm Days. It's easily been my most positive "TV OS" experience yet.
That said, I wish there was a dumb TV option.
Re: Please make your products work with URLs
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because then when you edit the markdown you have to take an additional step.
That depends entirely on how you have your workflow set up.
Sure, it's a matter of how complicated you want your workflow to be. The way things are right now, the author can edit the markdown file directly and be done with it. It's simple and straight-forward, low-effort and low cognitive load.
Re: Please make your products work with URLs
#137Or is it the general trend of moving away from the centralized Internet, the force of deglobalization? Instead of upholding standards and cherishing RFCs it seems that so many people and corporations are trying to invent the next protocol, the next flow, often poorly documented and proprietary. Even Linux is proud to be not Unix. I know, it has never been, but we can remember times when READMEs had lists of supported operating systems, and stuff did compile. Everyone's excited about ARMs and non-Intel stuff. I don't mind diversity, but it feels almost like celebrating fragmentation. I wonder if we are heading towards something like a pre-Internet era, with CompuServes and Prodigies, incompatible formats, with countries investing into their own future independent and incompatible architectures?
Re: Please make your products work with URLs
#138I hate smart TVs with a burning passion. They accomplish literally the bare minimum to keep people happy and sometimes not even that. Samsung’s Tizen OS is the most genuinely frustrating experience I’ve had with a consumer device outside of printing. Advertisements on my home screen that can’t be disabled, dubious privacy, bugs that require me to reboot my TV, and of course security so bad that they recommend install…
I've long since run with the notion that if you must have Smart TV features, do it with an external box. Last time I checked the Roku devices were decent for this, but there's a bunch of alternatives, and some lovely FOSS stuff (Kodi comes to mind) that is much more privacy focused. The TV itself is a black box of mystery, and does NOT get to go on my network. It doesn't need my wifi password, and I certainly don't w…
My last TV set I bought, I specifically looked for a non-smart TV. Got it for a bit cheaper than the smart models and there's no bloat. Everything else is handled by either PS4 or laptop via hdmi. I am not sure it's even possible to find non-smart TVs anymore.
Re: Please make your products work with URLs
#139Quote "HTTP is the lingua franca of the internet. When you build stuff, please make it work with simple URLs." Says the one who can't have a simple HTTP only site and I had to enable JS on NoScript in order to read his rant.
Looks like you're mistaking HTTP for HTML... The article makes no mention of HTML/JS.
No, this is very much an HTTP thing. When you request a resource over a URL, you should get the resource... instead with their site you get an HTML page with a bunch of javascript includes... that then retrieves content. It works, but it is opposite of what they are arguing for.
Now, this is this person's personal site... they can do what they want. But it's pretty ironic to put a rant about working with URLs on a site with a design like this that doesn't work with simple URLs.
Re: Please make your products work with URLs
#140I hate smart TVs with a burning passion. They accomplish literally the bare minimum to keep people happy and sometimes not even that. Samsung’s Tizen OS is the most genuinely frustrating experience I’ve had with a consumer device outside of printing. Advertisements on my home screen that can’t be disabled, dubious privacy, bugs that require me to reboot my TV, and of course security so bad that they recommend install…
Worse yet, Smart TVs often brick themselves due to failed software updates. My last Sony TV did an overnight Android update, and I found it in a state where it'd show the Android boot logo and subsequently shut down. Some Google research showed that this has happened to hundreds of people (youtube videos outlining the problem, etc). Sony refused to do anything due to the TV being out of warranty, and no amount of hac…
That sounds incredibly frustrating, and I can't believe Sony is able to get away with that. If it's not under warranty I can understand not replacing it for parts breaking due to wear or user error, but if it's an update the company pushed out that actively broke everyone's TV it seems cut and dry that they should fix or replace them.