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Please make your products work with URLs

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Re: Please make your products work with URLs

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post #17

I hate smart TVs with a burning passion. They accomplish literally the bare minimum to keep people happy and sometimes not even that. Samsung’s Tizen OS is the most genuinely frustrating experience I’ve had with a consumer device outside of printing. Advertisements on my home screen that can’t be disabled, dubious privacy, bugs that require me to reboot my TV, and of course security so bad that they recommend install…

> So I’ve got a desktop computer hooked up to my smart TV and now I am contemplating paying more for a TV so I can get one that doesn’t have any of this dumb crap on it.

Yeah, call me when you find one…

I have an nvidia shield which more than fulfills the "smart tv" needs, and I think that's probably the way it should be and stay. I love this setup and just want to disable all the smart features now. It's not like they're in the way but sometimes the tv does decide that "I see you're watching a movie. Now might be a good time to ask you to reboot for the latest software update innit?"

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

#64
post #14

Maybe this was the whole point of the author's post.. but I'm fairly certain the reason the author's use case is not easily workable is because the OEMs mentioned are deliberately discouraging the ability to play anything that is not inside some sort of DRM control. They don't want you to just be able to play any URL. Its not a technical problem, its a content management problem.

AirPlay doesn't have this design philosophy and wouldn't have given this user a problem. Unfortunately AirPlay itself is proprietary and only supported by Apple devices and some TVs.

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

#65
post #17

I hate smart TVs with a burning passion. They accomplish literally the bare minimum to keep people happy and sometimes not even that. Samsung’s Tizen OS is the most genuinely frustrating experience I’ve had with a consumer device outside of printing. Advertisements on my home screen that can’t be disabled, dubious privacy, bugs that require me to reboot my TV, and of course security so bad that they recommend install…

>I hate smart TVs with a burning passion.

Me too! When I bought a new Samsung 32" last year, I went very, very slowly as I set it up, so as not to inadvertently connect it to the internet. I succeeded in not connecting and life is good.

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

#66
This is the sort of use-case that the DLNA specification was intended for. It's not quite as simple as the author might want, but it is well supported. The TV can act as a Renderer for content pushed to it, or as a Player for content pulled from a Server.

All the smart TVs I've used implement this functionality. VLC and Kodi support this too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Living_Network_Allianc...

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

#67
I think it should be possible to do this with the browser and the Chromecast protocol, since my understanding is "play a video from this URL" is the core of the protocol. Someone could build a website following https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/chrome_sender/integr... where you paste the URL of a video and are given the option to "cast" it to the TV.

This would be some work, but only one person would need to do it and then anyone could "cast" a URL.

(Disclosure: I work at Google, speaking only for myself)

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

#68

Irony: blank page w/o JS, fails in Outline.com.

Yeah, same here with JS. Solid black page, no content. View source indicates about half is some Google analytics boilerplate, the other half is a body consisting entirely of non-functional JS pulls. OP, where is the content stored?

I feel like Hacker News main purpose isn't a news aggregator anymore, it's turned in to a place to test the usability of your Web site with the kinds of people who run NoScript or browse with a terminal.

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

#69
> However, there doesn't seem to be any widely implemented standard for playing plain URLs, only walled gardens like the YouTube app.

Actually, I think the standard is UPnP / DLNA. After setting up a UPNP server I can "cast" most things from Android by using the share button, and then choosing a UPnP app, such as Bubble UPnP. I don't know if the author's tv supports this, but many do.

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

#70
post #67

I think it should be possible to do this with the browser and the Chromecast protocol, since my understanding is "play a video from this URL" is the core of the protocol. Someone could build a website following https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/chrome_sender/integr... where you paste the URL of a video and are given the option to "cast" it to the TV. This would be some work, but only one person would need to do…

Right, someone already built it :)

https://chromecast.link/

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