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Re: Introducing Increment subscriptions

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Post by ceejayoz »

cptskippy wrote: post #18
ceejayoz wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The overall manufacturing process pollutes quite a bit, doesn't it?

1% or less of your carbon footprint is from your consumption of paper products. https://twosidesna.org/US/our-carbon-footprint-how-do-paper-...

There's more to pollution than just carbon, and that's an industry advocacy group's website.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_paper

> discarded paper and paperboard make up roughly 26% of solid municipal solid waste in landfill sites

> In the United States the pulp and paper industry released about 79, 000 tonnes or about 5% of all industrial pollutant releases in 2015...

> Worldwide, the pulp and paper industry is the fifth largest consumer of energy, accounting for four percent of all the world's energy use.

> Wastewater discharges for a pulp and paper mill contains solids, nutrients and dissolved organic matter such as lignin. It also contains alcohols, and chelating agents and inorganic materials like chlorates and transition metal compounds. Nutrients such as nitrogen and phosphorus can cause or exacerbate eutrophication of fresh water bodies such as lakes and rivers. Organic matter dissolved in fresh water, measured by biological oxygen demand (BOD), changes ecological characteristics. Wastewater may also be polluted with organochlorine compounds. Some of these are naturally occurring in the wood, but chlorine bleaching of the pulp produces far larger amounts.

> The pulp and paper industry is also associated with important emissions of heavy metals. In Canada, for example, this industry is the third source of lead (Pb) emissions to water[27] In the U.S., the pulp and paper industry is responsible for 9% of industrial releases to water.

and so on...

Even if the 1% number were fair/complete, combating climate change is likely going to involve a lot of small cuts rather than one or two big ones. Avoiding printing stuff we don't need to print is worthwhile.

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Post by detaro »

cptskippy wrote: post #16
marvindanig wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah right, tilling arable lands and pulping more trees isn't a problem at all. Whatever happened to critical thinking.

> tilling arable lands and pulping more trees So you're arguing against using crop land to produce a crop?

Why wouldn't one argue against unnecessary landuse producing more pollution?

Re: Introducing Increment subscriptions

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Post by cptskippy »

marvindanig wrote: post #2

Yucks, more dead-tree printing. So much for the 'cradle of innovation' from Silicon Valley, lol.

The average American's total paper consumption accounts for less than 1% of their total carbon footprint. So in terms of impact, you would reduce your carbon footprint more by going vegetarian 2 days a week than you would by entirely eliminating your paper consumption.

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Post by 101008 »

Unrelated: I do a digital magazine too, people can download the PDF. I'd love to give the people to opportunity to buy a printed copy if they want to (and maybe do some profit on the side). I think that's a good SaaS idea: upload your magazine in PDF and let the startup do everything, from pritning to shipping, and get a cut on that.

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Post by kradeelav »

GrayTextIsTruth wrote: post #13
spamizbad wrote: post #3

I think more companies should create zines. But maybe not be so corporate about it.. like this... be more authentic. Very powerful culture building tool tho IMO.

Could you elaborate on what makes these feel corporate? The design seems really modern and polished to me.

zines are interestingly their own subculture that sparked out of sci-fi fandom and punk culture, so anything more "polished" than those origins is going to seem corporate by comparison. This is a pretty good article that gives something to compare to (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/88911/brief-history-zine...).

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Post by ergl »

spamizbad wrote: post #3

I think more companies should create zines. But maybe not be so corporate about it.. like this... be more authentic. Very powerful culture building tool tho IMO.

Snapchat created Real Life Magazine (https://reallifemag.com) but other than that it doesn't have editorial control.

Re: Introducing Increment subscriptions

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Post by ceejayoz »

edwinwee wrote: post #19
ceejayoz wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The overall manufacturing process pollutes quite a bit, doesn't it?

(I work at Stripe.) We've made sure the process is carbon-neutral from forest to page. (And the paper itself is certified by the Forest Stewardship Council.)

That's great, but paper's pollution footprint is far larger than mere carbon output. There's so much focus on climate change that people forget a bucket of mercury is carbon-neutral but still not great to pour in a lake.

Someone elsewhere in the discussion asks for a Kindle edition; that'd be a great way to keep unnecessary paper down.

Re: Introducing Increment subscriptions

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Post by cptskippy »

detaro wrote: post #22
cptskippy wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> tilling arable lands and pulping more trees So you're arguing against using crop land to produce a crop?

Why wouldn't one argue against unnecessary landuse producing more pollution?

I think you'd first need to prove that it's unnecessary.

Re: Introducing Increment subscriptions

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Post by anant90 »

I wonder how many great marketing opportunities/channels are written off because they seem to deviate from the values of focus or frugality? And inversely, how many distractions are hiding under the cover of unconventional marketing? I genuinely don't know.
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