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Re: Don't talk to the police

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I remind myself that I don't have to talk to the police every few months. (Need to pre-wire it so I don't flounder when under duress.) One thing you have to be careful about: you may end up doing yourself more damage by pleading the fifth when it isn't necessary. "No officer, I understand this is a routine traffic stop, but I'm pulling out the fifth and am not responding to your queries."

You don't have to plead the 5th to not answer questions.

If you are not under arrest then you don't have to say anything. If you are, then what you are using is your right to remain silent ala miranda.

Re: Don't talk to the police

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The HN guidelines say: "If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity." I think this qualifies.

I'm not entirely sure this is valid for HN, but it's at least more valid than Arrington's latest bitching about Twitter.

Re: Don't talk to the police

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Not Hacker News.

This IS hacker news. It is closely related to a certain creator of a certain file system who refused to exercise his 5th Amendment rights and is now formally convicted of murder.

I'm not convinced that "how to kill your wife and not get caught" is really hacker news, though...

Re: Don't talk to the police

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I remind myself that I don't have to talk to the police every few months. (Need to pre-wire it so I don't flounder when under duress.) One thing you have to be careful about: you may end up doing yourself more damage by pleading the fifth when it isn't necessary. "No officer, I understand this is a routine traffic stop, but I'm pulling out the fifth and am not responding to your queries."

Tucker max has a good forum post on where the leeway is: http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/showthread.php?t=3032

1. If I know I am totally innocent, I am totally honest with the cops 2. If you are kinda guilty, i.e., you did something wrong but it wasn't that bad, supplicate yourself to the cop and place yourself at their mercy 3. If you are guilty and know it, shut the fuck up

Re: Don't talk to the police

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I remind myself that I don't have to talk to the police every few months. (Need to pre-wire it so I don't flounder when under duress.) One thing you have to be careful about: you may end up doing yourself more damage by pleading the fifth when it isn't necessary. "No officer, I understand this is a routine traffic stop, but I'm pulling out the fifth and am not responding to your queries."

Tucker max has a good forum post on where the leeway is: http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/showthread.php?t=3032 1. If I know I am totally innocent, I am totally honest with the cops 2. If you are kinda guilty, i.e., you did something wrong but it wasn't that bad, supplicate yourself to the cop and place yourself at their mercy 3. If you are guilty and know it, shut the fuck up

You should watch the video in the headline; because you would see a lawyer and a police detective both telling you why this is terrible advice.

Re: Don't talk to the police

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I remind myself that I don't have to talk to the police every few months. (Need to pre-wire it so I don't flounder when under duress.) One thing you have to be careful about: you may end up doing yourself more damage by pleading the fifth when it isn't necessary. "No officer, I understand this is a routine traffic stop, but I'm pulling out the fifth and am not responding to your queries."

"Am I being detained? Am I free to go?"

Those are your two key questions.

These guys aren't advising you to be a jerk, but you should know what your rights are and how they apply to you.

Re: Don't talk to the police

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I remind myself that I don't have to talk to the police every few months. (Need to pre-wire it so I don't flounder when under duress.) One thing you have to be careful about: you may end up doing yourself more damage by pleading the fifth when it isn't necessary. "No officer, I understand this is a routine traffic stop, but I'm pulling out the fifth and am not responding to your queries."

"Am I being detained? Am I free to go?" Those are your two key questions. These guys aren't advising you to be a jerk, but you should know what your rights are and how they apply to you.

Bingo. Don't forget the word 'detained'. Cops can either detain or arrest you. Normally, they will tell you when you are being detained.

Being detained means they may put you in cuffs for their own safety while they try to understand the situation. (Let's say you are involved in a domestic squabble.) You are temporarily under the state's custody but you aren't being charged with anything.

You know what being arrested means. You don't want that.

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